Nothing needs to be refuted. You haven’t presented any valid argument or any evidence for those propositions.
I keep asking for evidence that the races are intrinsically equal. I keep getting insults, silly cliches about race being a social construct, or dead silence.
Which “blacks”? Which “whites”?
You’ve provided no evidence that what you call “races” even exist.
You keep asking for something no one has even suggested or tried to prove (except in your imagination). You’ve done nothing but state and restate a hypothesis, over and over again. We know the achievement gap exists. There have been many such gaps in history, many of which have disappeared. You’ve provided no data or evidence supporting your assertion about why the achievement gap exists; all you’ve done is continue to show its existence.
OK, NDD, lemme ask you something: are the dividing lines between the races bright and able to be objectively observed (whether through physical traits, DNA testing, or otherwise)? If so, what are these lines/genes? If not, why divide people up into specific races to begin with, scientifically speaking?
By providing a forum for racism, one promotes racism.
I have documented sufficient evidence that the races differ by crime rates and average intellectual performance. This evidence is documented by credible sources like the Bureau of Justice Statistics of the United States Department of Justice,
http://bjs.ojp.usdoj.gov/content/homicide/race.cfm
the College Board and the ACT
the Global Burden of Armed Violence Report. Geneva Declaration on Armed Violence and Development, the Global Study on Homicide, UNODC,
and finally OECD/PISA.
Those who refuse to accept these as credible sources reveal that they are beyond the range of rational debate.
If you really think this thread is providing any support for racism, you’re as dumb as NDD.
Moron. Those are social races, not genetic “races.” They are not races according to the definitions you yourself cited.
Blacks, whites, Orientals, and Hispanics are races according to the definitions I have cited. Hispanics are a hybrid race composed mainly of American Indians and Europeans.
You and others keep saying that I have not provided evidence that some races are biologically superior to others. Nevertheless, you make it clear that you would not accept anything as evidence.
The evidence I will accept for innate racial equality will be the different races behaving and performing equally well.
No they are not, no many how many times you repeat it.
Try providing some scientifically valid evidence. You haven’t.
You haven’t provided any evidence that genetically defined races even exist, let alone that they differ in innate ability.
Actually here you are demonstrating to be an even bigger moron, you are supposed to convince the scientist, not to tell him you know more than him, as it was admitted by you there is no evidence at the genetic level of what you are claiming, so what you are doing here is just a smoke screen, it is not the social divisions what we are dealing with, but the lack of the biological ones.
You’ve provided zero genetic evidence. I’ve provided in detail what evidence would be acceptable. You haven’t even attempted to address it.
Oh, and “Hispanics” aren’t even a social race. They’re an ethnic group that includes members of European, African, Indian, and mixed ancestry.
Fucking idiot.
Sure thing, shit for brains. You’re the one providing the racist a platform while deluding yourself into thinking that you are advancing your position.
I have too addressed it. I have pointed out that long before genes were discovered it was understood that biological relatives resembled each other.
It was only during and after the Second World War that well recognized racial differences were considered to be exclusively environmental. The consensus was that because the Nazis believed that race is important, it is not.
This was an example of the guilt by association fallacy.
Guilt by Association is a fallacy in which a person rejects a claim simply because it is pointed out that people she dislikes accept the claim. This sort of “reasoning” has the following form:
It is pointed out that people person A does not like accept claim P.
Therefore P is false
It is clear that sort of “reasoning” is fallacious. For example the following is obviously a case of poor “reasoning”: “You think that 1+1=2. But, Adolf Hitler, Charles Manson, Joseph Stalin, and Ted Bundy all believed that 1+1=2. So, you shouldn’t believe it.”
The fallacy draws its power from the fact that people do not like to be associated with people they dislike. Hence, if it is shown that a person shares a belief with people he dislikes he might be influenced into rejecting that belief. In such cases the person will be rejecting the claim based on how he thinks or feels about the people who hold it and because he does not want to be associated with such people.
Of course, the fact that someone does not want to be associated with people she dislikes does not justify the rejection of any claim. For example, most wicked and terrible people accept that the earth revolves around the sun and that lead is heavier than helium. No sane person would reject these claims simply because this would put them in the company of people they dislike (or even hate).
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/guilt-by-association.html
The way to fight ignorance, bad science, and racism, is to address it and show everyone how stupid it is.
Another excellent straw man, created and taken down by New Deal Democrat. You have a knack for only arguing against things no one in this thread has said.
And it wasn’t shown why until we had the science and technology to properly test the hypothesis. You’ve made a hypothesis, but that’s it. Real science is hard.