I’m giving this post (and vote) a FoS - I don’t like Day 1 votes that are halfway “real” votes and halfway jokes. That post was obviously a joke and I didn’t read the TexCat thing as a snuggle. What I do see is a third vote, early in the day, extending the lead by a two-vote margin.
There is much FOSing. There are the bad guys fomenting discord and feigning innocence. There are clueless, yet earnest, innocents accusing their own out of unwarranted suspicion and paranoia. There are axes to grind from past games, random votes (many use random.org to generate a vote until theories are made, or so they claim). I voted for someone once based on his username. I had a perfect animated gif for it. So I said “I picked you because this gif is funny” and a boatload of people followed my lead.
It’s good because at a certain point you know if you’re mathematically safe (assuming someone’s secret power or hidden host action don’t come into play), but it’s bad cause if you vote early, you’re stuck. And if you ALWAYS vote towards the end, then that gets people suspicious of you. Which is how I got caught in my last game. I kept voting last to save my teammate every time and I got night killed.
Well that makes it easier to decide.
Vote Mahaloth
What does “halfway ‘real’ and halfway jokes” mean to you and why does it bother you?
It is a “real” vote in the sense that I did in fact type the words “vote prof p” just like everyone else who has voted. Yes, the Prof’s post was amusing. But given that the only other thing to base a vote on this early was “I hate cheese puns”, his pre-game roundup seems at least like a game related reason to vote.
Humor must be hunted down and punished?
After that last game where I continually nearly got lynched for letting you talk me out of voting for you (after a very long and compelling argument, I might add), I don’t think this one question you ask me now will convince me.
Plus as I said, I’d rather have a game related reason to vote than cheese reasons, humorous or not as each may be.
Thank you. Your post just now made me realize for the first time that my Mafia playing no longer sucks badly.
Well, here’s hoping TexCat and septimus find more promising targets.
I mean that a Day 1 one vote is either a joke or you’re making an actual case. Yours seems like a little bit of both, or maybe a vote that’s trying to leave room on either side.
Now it just plains sucks! (sorry, I couldn’t resist that softball you lobbed)
*It is only Day 1, but I’d like to see what we can all do about finding “promising targets.” *
**[soapbox] **I am fond of saying “Scum have to lie every time they post.” But it is more than that. Scum have to act in such a way that they appear to be Town. It is a specific kind of lie.
Town players have to post their thoughts while worrying some mis-speak might get them lynched. And this is a reasonable worry-- and not just because one gets tossed out of a fun game, but because every mislynch leads closer to a team-Town loss. And losing “sucks.”
So there is plenty of incentive not to post. But a quiet Town allows Scum to be quiet and appear just as Townie as everyone else. I’d love it if "lynch the lurker’ was a bigger fear than the mis-speak, And I also think mis-speech is* actually more likely from a Town playe**r*. When I was Scum I was super-cautious about what I was posting. I am a bit less so as Town because if I mispeak, it is still honest and I can do my best to defend or correct what I say no matter how badly I have said it. [/soapbox]
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I’d like to hear more from septimus, preferably not in the Shakespeare persona. septimus, you were active in the Day 1 postings in the other game I played with you. (Yes, we mis-lynched you in that game and I am still sorry about that, but you were at least a good Town player trying to help Town.) I’d like to hear your thoughts this game.
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Prof. Pepperwinkle, what else do you see Day 1 other than “lurking?” I ask because I have seen you pick Scum correctly on Day 1 in other games, and in none of those games were you going after a player just for lurking. I am not saying that a lurking vote is bad, but other than the joke listing of players, have any other players postings raised an eyebrow or earned a nod of agreement? Any at all?
(Example: I don’t think **Precambrianmollusc **as Scum would provoke **Mahaloth **on Day 1. Sure it is merely a gut feeling, but why would Scum want to antagonize on Day 1, earning unwanted attention and possibly even a lynch?)
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Fair Rarity: I do not understand voting for a player simply because that player voted for you. Do you see something else scummy with** Mahaloth** or is it just an “easy” retaliation vote? I don’t think retaliation votes really get us anywhere.
I really don’t think my guesses were more than dumb luck.
I think Fair Rarity is acting as newbies always do, and that septimus and Kimble are worse lurkers than he/she is.
As far as whether or not it’s Scummy to antagonize Mahaloth on Day 1: his succinct manner of communication never gives away his position, and, accordingly, he’s probably the safest person in the game to antagonize early on. Unlike TexCat. Don’t even joke about TexCat or you will find yourself leading in the lynch vote quickly. Apparently.
I can’t even fault snfaulkner’s vote on me, even though it’s wrong. He did have more reason that is usually found this early on, even though it’s wrong. Did I mention it’s wrong?
So, if I had a better thought than “Lynch the Lurker”, I’d have moved off of Kimble by now. But I’ll keep looking.
Why does me voting for you make it easier?
Vote Count
3 - Prof. Pepperwinkle (TexCat[36], septimus[51], snfaulkner[53])
2 - Fair Rarity (Mahaloth[64], Biotop[68])
2 - Mahaloth (Precambrianmollusc[65], Fair Rarity[82])
1 - Precambrianmollusc (Kimble[37])
2 - Kimble (Johnny Bravo[44], Prof. Pepperwinkle[71])
Remember! Only 28 1/2 hours to move your vote!
Only six posts since midnight, and half of those are mine. Where is everybody?
**Unvote: Prof. P
Vote: PCMollusc **
Something just seems wrong with PCM’s naked vote on Mahaloth for brevity, and I wasn’t any happier with PCM’s explanation or non-explanation of the vote.
Still got my eye on Prof.
I have no problems with Biotop’s post; I just disagree with this part. In my very last game, a scum who was pretty much neutrally read by everyone (including me) tunneled me hard for the first two Days. (He got lynched Day 2 because of a power role result against him.) On Day 3, another townie decided that the scum was actually distancing himself from me and led a successful mislynch against me.
Of course, that could be a small sample size issue on my part. It’s definitely not scummy to have a gut town read on Precambrianmollusc.
Posting from the lunchroom:
It looks like we have four-way tie with a day to go. I stand by my feeling that a Scum **PCM **would be less likely to make that naked vote. There is currently no case on **Mahaloth **that I can see. **Prof. P. ** may be Scum… but would he really hang onto the lurking thing after the last game…?
**Fair Rarity **lurked and then made a retaliation vote which helps not at all. It is “easy” in the sense that he is not making a case, and can defend the vote later as simple retaliation by a new player. This game is a lot of things, but easy is not one of them. My vote stays where it is.
Quiet Town players, we need to hear from you.
Actually, it’s a Five-Way tie. I’m not sold on Kimble, and will probably change my vote when I can figure out who’s the most likely Scum.
This post has been bothering me for a little while, now.
The fact is, scum don’t have to lie every time they post. Sometimes, all they have to do is townie things or, failing that, things which are not scummy. So maybe they, you know, spend some time talking about how All Good Townies should be playing. Then encourage some folks to talk more. All very townie, all free of lies, all with minimal paper trail.
Feels off to me. Let’s see where it goes.
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unvote Kimble
vote Biotop.**
Well I am somewhat drunk in London with my brothers , and back on a flight to the US in the morning so my reasoning and typing is going to be worse than usual .
My vote in Mahaloth was a straight up our with a stick, he voted with absolutely no reason , yet finds it troubling that someone votes for him with no reason . texcat also sees things the same way , then again I always think TC is scum , and most of the time I am wrong. So given that I am wrong all the time , odds are I must be right this time .