Both were very good.
Smallville: I’ll be the first to admit I never cared for Erica Durance. However, she showed in this episode she does have some acting talent. Lots of goodies here, especially Doomsday, even if it was a brief glimpse. Loved the lighting at the end.
Supernatural: Wow and wow. Can’t say enough goodies here. Drama and fighting and just when you thought ol’ Dean couldn’t get any darker…
I thought Smallville was really very good. I was afraid it would be cheesy, but I actually found it well-acted and exciting.
That’s probably because Kristen Kreuk was only in it for a short time ;).
I don’t watch Smallville, but I absolutely enjoyed the past two weeks of Supernatural. Poor Dean, it just never gets any easier to be him! The demon/angel arc is really starting to get interesting.
I’ve only watched the first half of this week’s Supernatural – maybe the second half answers my concerns. So far, I’m :dubious: about this angel stuff, especially Anna’s story. If angels are cold and emotionless (literally, “no hearts”), she shouldn’t have been affected by anything humans do. Angels should be sociopaths. Sociopaths don’t know what they’re missing, and they don’t care.
And “grace” as a physical object? WTF? This is some pretty far out shit right there. I don’t trust her. Ruby doesn’t either, I don’t think.
Maybe I’d better watch the second half.
Was it stated/implied that angels are emotionless? Because Castiel certainly seems to feel affection, Uriel feels anger, and Anna felt jealous of humans. So far, all of the angels feel something. Hell, demons aren’t supposed to have positive feelings, but Ruby seems in love with Sam.
I liked this week, although Sam figuring out the location of Ruby’s grace in 3.6 seconds was pretty silly. Pamala is kinda growing on me. Dean’s revelation at the end downright crushed me, and what the hell was with Sam?!? He sat there like a lump on the Impala, little more than a “wow, that sucks, man” at Dean’s big revelation. Um, would have been a great time for a hug and some reasurance, Sam.
… … … … … Sam’s a better lover than Dean. There, I said it.
Edit because grace and grief are not the same thing.
I don’t usually get to watch Supernatural till it’s on DVD but I caught this one.
So sad at the end, and some great acting by Jensen Ackles.
Yeah. When she and Dean were talking, just the two of them, Anna likened being an angel to being a marble statute. Dean says something like “feelings are overrated” and Anna says (more or less) that the reason she fell was because she wanted to experience all the emotions, “even the bad ones.” But then she goes off ranting like a disgrunted employee, talking about how only four angels have ever seen God, and how angels who don’t show their faith are killed, and how bored she was just standing around “watching” for 2000 years.
Sounds like a bunch of hokum to me.
I did like the Stardust-y feel to it though, but mostly, I was questioning everything.
The final fight – why would Uriel go after the lackey first and not Alastair? Why didn’t Castiel and Uriel both go after him? And why do angels fight like people? Punching? They should be tossing thunderbolts. And why did Alistair go after Anna after she was angelized? He had to know what would happen. What did happen? Are they both destroyed? Fighting on a cloud somewhere? And what’s this about fallen angels as real falling angels? They hang out up in space? And Sam has a photographic memory about comets? Why did Alistair torture Ruby to give him Anna when the reason she summoned him was to give Anna up? How did Anna know that her grace was hanging on Uriel’s neck?
It was all redeemed in those last few minutes though. Poor Dean.
Doomsday!???
Uriel showed it to Dean and Dean told her.
Yes, Dean saw it and told her. All part of the plan.
I suppose Uriel wanted to get rid of the stooges to concentrate on Alistair. Also, IITS (it’s in the script). They presumably can’t really cut loose without harming their host bodies, which would be annoying. I think Alistair’s human body was atomized and so was Anna’s, so they’re back in their corners. Alistair tortured Ruby basically because he could, and to punish her for working against Hell.
And the “angels as emotionless statues” thing is bull on it’s face. If there’s not emotions, why did Lucifer (who I hope they never try to show, it would be underwhelming no matter what) fall in the first place? You could argue that being in a host body “infects” an angel with emotions. Interesting that Cas outranks Uriel, I would have thought it was the other way around.
As for Smallville: yes, Doomsday, who we saw a little bit of, enough to make him look good. Dunno how he’ll look in full light. The shots of him and Chloe really were beautiful.
Ahhh, thanks for the explanations.
I think the reason I was so nitpicky with this episode was because I watched it in bits and pieces. When I watch in one sitting, I’m so caught up in the emotion and the story, I don’t question anything. But when it’s in 10-minute increments, there’s too much time to think about what’s going on, what should happen next, why the characters are doing this and that. I won’t do that again.
I didn’t love this episode. The torture scene was unbelievably gratuitous, the sex was the least sexy sex I’ve ever seen (call me old-fashioned, but it might have been better had there been any sexual tension at all between them before they got naked), and the overall tone was just… weird.
The ending was powerful, though. Poor Dean. And poor Sam. I don’t buy that he handled it badly. Dean needed to say it, and he needed Sam to know it, but no way is that a huggy I’m okay you’re okay moment.
On the upside, plenty of Castiel, and more Castiel is always better.
On the downside… January!!! What the hell am I supposed to do until January?!?!?
Yes! Dean’s “what the hell” eyebrow lift when Anna came on to him wasn’t what I’d call romantic.
Go watch The Prophecy with Christopher Walken. It’s got angels and stuff.
Give her a break. She was a real downer early on, but her acting has improved a lot lately. She will never have another job I fear.
I don’t know anything about “Doomsday”. I looked it up. Apparently he is the only villain to actually kill Superman. Interesting.
On another note, when Chloe came out as such a major star in this series, everybody was predicting that she would be the sacrificed woman that finally transforms Clark into Superman. Obviously, Chloe does not appear in the comic books, so she must be killed in order to be consistent with the comics. It is a very obvious conclusion. I will be extremely pissed if the writters use the obvious fan wank. I’m not a fan of the Superman comics. I’m a fan of Smallville. Fuck the Superman canon. Write what is good. When it appeared that Chloe could become evil a few weeks ago, I was very intrigued. Do anything, just don’t kill her, because she doesn’t exist in the Superman canon.
No, but a hug doesn’t have to mean ‘everything’s okay’. It can also mean, ‘I support you’ or ‘I don’t think you’re a bad person for giving in’ or ‘I love you and will do whatever I can to help’. I know the Winchesters usually don’t hug unless someone dies, but I really feel a hug (or SOMETHING!) was justified. Sam seemed downright emotionless.
Curl up into a small ball and cry? That, or fanfiction.
Smallville - that was pretty damned good, and Jim and I have a Smallville drinking game (a shot for every “trust me,” a shot for every awkward conversation between Clark and a woman, a shot for every “let’s just say…” etc). Clark and Lois were surprisingly good together (but I could live with her not calling him, “Smallville” any more). What shenanigans is Lana up to, and is it with Lex? And how do I get my hair cut like hers? I LOVED her hair!
Supernatural - another good episode. I thought the comet stuff was pretty forced, too, but I can live with it. Poor Dean. It’ll be interesting to see why the angels want him - probably not good for him, though.
WarmNPrickly, my personal choice is that Chloe runs off and joins Green Arrow as their techspert. That way she can still appear on the show and yet be “gone” when/if Clark finally puts on the cape, thereby satisfying canon geeks and show-watchers alike. She’s my favorite person on the show and I have a crush on her, so I really hope she does not die. I could live with her evil, though. And killing Jimmy.
Chloe has taken the role of Pete Ross in this series. Pete was there and then left because they decided a cute girl is more of a draw. She’s been with the show for many season’s. I don’t see any reason to get rid of her. I like the way the show draws from DC comics and twists it a bit. It offers something to those fans and a new interpretation. Since DC has reinvented the whole Superman myth before the show started I can’t see comic fans complaining about it.