What is this “horn” you’re referring to?
Golden Switch. I don’t know why I think of it as a horn.
Need some gardening tips
Is there some “secret” to getting the better crops out of the garden? Do I just need to grind my way up from Baker’s Wheat and Thumbcorn? Is there a better planting strategy at first than “chessboard” (i.e. plant in diagonals)?
I’m “only” up to 50 decillion CpS - my current setup is:
Krumblor: Radiant Appetite, Fierce Hoarder
Pantheon: Moklasium, Jeremy, Skruuia (is the wrinkler bonus worth getting rid of golden cookies?)
Most buildings are at Level 9
I also have pretty much every heavenly upgrade that costs 1 billion chips or less
The best garden setup depends on what you’re trying to produce. But for the things that require two of the same parent, you want
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(where the Ps are plants, and the . are empty spots).
Note that there are some things that derive from weeds: Put the garden on fertilizer and just leave it empty, and eventually Meddleweed will spring up. Let it reach maturity and then harvest it, and there’s a chance there will be one of two fungi left behind. Those fungi in turn will lead to other crops (either by themselves, or in combination with wheat-derived crops).
Skruuia is only worthwhile for getting wrinklers to spawn, and that’s decently fast anyway. Skip it. The holiday one is good until you get all of the Christmas cookies, Easter eggs, and Halloween cookies. Other than that, use the one that gives you faster sugar: There are lots of ways to speed up cookies, but very few to speed up sugar.
All the info you need for gardening is here: https://cookieclicker.fandom.com/wiki/Garden
Followup on the bakeberry strategy I’ve been using, where you cue up a building bonus spell and wait for a frenzy.
After doing it twice as detailed above, I ascended to start fresh. I quickly cued up a building bonus and click frenzy within four casts of each other and waited for a frenzy. The building bonus + frenzy + click frenzy combo got me up to over 2 quattuordecillion as a starting bank for the cost of one sugar lump. (Remember, my cps was 26 undecillions when I started this yesterday; 2 quattuordecillion is a ridiculously large number for my cps.)
I then planted the bakeberry, cued up a building bonus spell and shot up to 6 quattuordecillion. Repeated it immediately and that brought me to over 20 quattuordecillion. Wow! It’s tripling me each time!
But that brings me to my third effort, where I just could not get a building bonus spell lined up. I swear I chewed through over 50 castings before I found one. But then I did, just now, and that shot me up from 20 to 60 quattuordecillion. Triple again! (Bakeberry to 58, popping wrinklers before replanting got me to 60.)
So if someone else tries this and seemingly never gets a building bonus spell lined up, I feel your pain. I ended up burning 5 spells at a time and letting mana rebuild for an hour before trying again. But no matter how many it takes, it is absolutely worth it.
I did some analysis on mana regeneration. You can see a screenshot here. The numbers were calculated with 500 wizard towers, but it’s largely the same for higher values. The conclusion:
For speed, burn 3 spells at once every 20 minutes (9 per hour)
For relaxation, burn 5 spells at once every hour (5 per hour)
For a compromise between the two, burn 4 spells at once every half hour (8 per hour)
I started off with 4 at once every half hour, but after like 20 I got annoyed and switched over to 5 every hour so I wouldn’t have to keep coming back to it so much.
So right now I’m sitting at 60.355 quattuordecillion in the bank and my veil + switch (not horn!) cps is currently 4.6 duodecillion. Figure that translates to around 1.1 duodecillion cps while fishing for golden cookies, meaning I have around 50 million seconds in my bank right now.
It turns out that building bonuses are multiplicative with each other despite saying “+7200%” or whatever. That makes them far superior to frenzy, but it takes longer to wait for a building bonus golden cookie in the wild. Worth it, though.
With switch and veil my cps is 1.013 tredecillion, but while fishing for golden cookies it’s 264 duodecillion. My bank was 71 quindecillion, which translates to 8.5 years worth of cps while fishing.
I keep my top four buildings at 700+ and just retry the spell until I get one of those four. With frenzy and +7100% spell I would have generated around 12 quindecillion cookies; 1.5 years worth in one go. (I did it to see then reloaded.) But that’s clearly capped, and regardless how high my bank goes I’d only be able to increase by around 12 quindecillion at a time.
I reloaded and waited for a building bonus, which will usually be in the 500s, minimum of 450. The first one I got was +5100%, so I cast my spell for another +7400% and generated 94 quindecillion by harvesting the bakeberry, or the equivalent of 11.3 years worth of cps.
11.3 years worth of cps in one shot is pretty solid. 10x better than the frenzy + building bonus I’d been doing. I’m curious how high that goes, as it isn’t capped by my bank yet.
x490: Frenzy + Building Bonus (700)
x666: Elder Frenzy
x3500: Building Bonus (500) + Building Bonus (700)
EDIT: So I guess stick with frenzy + building bonus until it stops tripling your bank, then switch to building bonus + building bonus.
What is a “building biscuit”? The context is at the end of the Ascension Guide, once you’re done with all the heavenly upgrades, the optimal permaslot configuration includes them. I have all the kitten upgrades unlocked, including the fortune cookie one, so it’s probably only a minor thing but it bugs me that I don’t know what the guide is talking about. At the very end it says:
(1148 and beyond)
Permaslot 1 - highest illion fingers upgrade (CBL) OR second highest building biscuit OR a GC frequency upgrade
Permaslot 2 - highest kitten
Permaslot 3 - highest Javascript Console upgrade OR fortune console upgrade
Permaslot 4 - Fortune#103 [Kitten]
Permaslot 5 - highest building biscuit
I just now finally re-unlocked the kitten fortune in the ticker, which is good because I forgot to slot it into a permaslot last ascension. I’m thinking I should immediately ascend and slot it before I forget, which brings me to my building biscuit question. My planned permaslots are as follows:
[ol][li]Octillion Fingers[/li][li]Highest Kitten upgrade[/li][li]Kitten fortune cookie[/li][li]Highest javascript console upgrade[/li][li](Highest building biscuit???)[/ol][/li]At first I thought it was a building upgrade, but the above quoted recommendation includes “highest Javascript Console upgrade” as #3 and “highest building biscuit” as #5, so the biscuits and upgrades are different things.
Anyone know? The answer is resisting google searches due to how many biscuits are involved in the game.
EDIT: Currently at 14.308 tredecillion cps with veil and switch active, and 7.186 sexdecillion cookies baked all time.
I believe they are the biscuit upgrades awarded for “Rewarded for owning X of everything” where everything means buildings.
The first is Milk chocolate butter biscuit (100 of everything), the last Pure pitch-black chocolate butter biscuit
These are not expensive but may be hard to qualify for. And the 10% bonus is as big as you can get.
Oh, yeah, okay, that does make sense. It does take a bit of work to get back to 500 of every building after ascending.
Personally, I put Omelete in that slot instead of Kitten Fortune Cookie, which didn’t exist at the time, to speed up the egg hunt. I’m not sure which saves more work in the long run. Largely moot, since I’ll have no reason to ascend again until at least the next update, and who knows what will be optimal then.
Omelette is a good idea, although it would deny me the pleasure of ranting when I get it 19th out of 20 Easter eggs.
I put the 3 “four-leaf clover” upgrades in the permanent slots - “Lucky Day”, “Serendipity”, and “Get Lucky” - the new game starts with Golden Cookies turbo-charged.
I should probably do Easter one of these ascensions, then, I suppose.
The problem with the kitten fortune is that it’s random and not easily worked toward. For something like highest JavaScript upgrade all you need are a bazillion cookies, which is trivially easy to do. But I don’t want to have to wait and pray for a specific ticker fortune.
For a similar reason, I’ve only done Easter once, like 10 ascensions ago. I only got like half the Easter cookies and gave up. Christmas I do immediately because you can finish it in like 30 seconds, no lucky RNG rolls required.
Eh, I’m going for completion. I’m going to want all of the fortune cookies eventually, even the ones that just boost mines or something, so I’ll have to watch for the green text anyway. Permaslotting one will only speed up that process marginally.
If you’re not opposed to save-scumming, you can speed up Easter considerably. Wait until you have a full roster of wrinklers, and then open up the game in a bunch of tabs. Pop all wrinklers in one of them. Keep the tab that got the best results, and close the others. Wait for more wrinklers, and repeat. Between Omelete, the random-drop dragon aura, the seasonal-drop worship, and the random-drop Christmas stuff, it goes even quicker than Christmas does (which takes longer than 30 seconds, if you want all the cookies).
I just meant that maxing out the Christmas demon Santa thing is (literally) 30 seconds. I haven’t gotten all the Christmas cookies yet – to be honest I wasn’t really aware there were any – but I did luck into the Eldeer achievement almost immediately during my very first Christmas. That was nice.
Definitely not opposed to save scumming, so I’ll give that a shot, thanks much!
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Save-scumming seems trickier now, some timers aren’t saved in the one-minute save anymore.
But, I have found a way to get a super shit-load of cookies:
Fill your garden with mature Bakeberry’s. When a golden cookie gives you a frenzy save to file. Later (when the Elder Pledge would be over) load the save. You will find the frenzy timer is still there and the Grandma’s will immediately go into angered. The next golden cookie has about a 5% chance of being an Elder Frenzy. If so, because of the stacked frenzy’s, harvesting a Bakeberry will give you 30 minutes of your current CPS which is 7 x 666 x 30 = 139,860. This is capped at 3% of your bank, so to take full advantage you need an enormous bank.
Yep, that’s what ended my need for cookies. Now I’m just waiting for sugar lumps. Making a ton of cookies via save-scumming is easily repeatable. I happen to use 6 browser tabs, but any number is fine:
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Open 6 tabs, wait for any one of them to be a frenzy.
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First frenzy you get, immediately close other 5 windows, then save the frenzy, reload, open 5 more tabs so now you have 6 frenzies.
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Hope the next golden cookie is a building bonus or elder frenzy. If none of them are, start over at 1. (Typically one of your last two or three failed efforts is a frenzy, so you can use that frenzy and go straight to 2.)
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Once you get a frenzy + (building bonus or elder frenzy), quickly close the other 5 windows, save and reload.
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Save scum a building bonus spell until it’s a 700+ building.
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Harvest 36 Bakeberries
If you go with the building bonus cookie instead of elder frenzy, the whole thing takes like 20 minutes tops once you get your bakeberry mature and spell queued. Easily repeatable. But that’s only around 7 * 60 * 70 = 29400 times your cps.
Holding out for elder frenzy instead of a building bonus ups you to around 7 * 666 * 70 = 326,340 times your cps.
Once you get to the point that 7 * building bonus * building bonus is no longer near-tripling your bank, 7 * elder frenzy * building bonus will keep near-tripling but at that point either you ascend again or you’re essentially done needing cookies for anything. Which is where I’m at right now.
I discovered this game when this old thread resurfaced a month ago. It’s taken way more of my tie than I should have given it but its a nice distraction while I hole up in my lightless coronavirus bunker.
I fumbled my way through making every mistake possible and some that most couldn’t imagine. For example, I was harvesting mature parent plants hoping to find mutated offspring seeds, which doesn’t work. I eventually found a wiki and a strategy guide and since then, I’ve ramped up to a bank of 40 undecillion cookies and over 300 of every building. I have 72 percent of the prestige upgrades unlocked. I feel like I’m doing okay but I’m still having trouble getting great seeds from the garden. Thanks for the tips everyone.
Okay, I’ll ask…how do I get anywhere near the 5 quindecillion cookies you need to get the Javascript Console Fortune upgrade?