Some fat people are their own worst enemies

Just go and look at the statistics for the type of “glandular problem” that will make you obese. IIRC 1 : 500,000. Now look at the stats for obesity.

** Gary Kumquat ** - Not helping myslef ??? Ask me if I give a shit about what you think.

Oh I see. It’s perfectly okay to harangue someone when their condition has a physical manifestation, as in being overweight, but depression – that’s entirely different.

Glandular problems aside, it has been repeatedly pointed out to you in this thread that there are a variety of other reasons people are overweight, and that in many cases there is a psychological component. Some people do simply have a lifestyle involving poor eating choices and little exercise, true, but often there’s issues of poor self-esteem (and, yes, depression) involved which need to be resolved before the physical issues can be effectively addressed (again, as previously mentioned in this thread).

As someone who suffers from depression (and has undergone therapy for it) and has been told by well-meaning but ignorant fucks to “just cheer up”, I see little difference between your telling fat people to change their attitudes and habits and someone telling me to do the same thing. But thanks for your constructive contribution nonetheless.

You honestly “see no difference” ??? No wonder you’re depressed. Depression is a mental illness, with myriad causes, and often linked to chemical imbalances in the brain, e.g. Serotonin (formed from tryptophan) and 5-HT a lesser known neuro-transporter with possible links to depression.

Now riddle me this Batman - You think it is just as easy to regulate your serotonin production, as it is to not put a hamburger in your mouth ?? Come the fuck on ! They are vastly different.

Your point? Would it be ok for you to make fun of depressed people if they were 500 000:1? And as already mentioned, their are tons of other factors.

Being depressed has been one of the main contributing factors in my obesity. Another factor is having a bad back(not that bad, I’m not immobile) Stay in bed all day and eat some food, you certainly won’t be burning up any of that stuff. It was like that for me. I’m trying to lose weight, but comments made to me when I’m publicly exercising only make my depression worse, making me fear exercising, because I know judgemental jackasses like you will only make comments.

What if I were the person in the OP, buying a donut? I already feel like shit about eating in public because I’m fat and HAHAHA!! I’M EATING MMM LET ME STUFF THIS IN MY FACE!!! WHERE’S THE BUCKETS OF LARD?? I would still get commented on, despite my struggles. And I have been exercising. You would know nothing, so you cannot comment on it.

Hypothetical:
Would it be ok to make fun off your teeth or hair? I mean SURELY you can afford orthodontic surgery, I mean surely you can brush your teeth more often? Why don’t you get a haircut? Can’t you go down there and cut it all off? Surely you could do something as simple as getting your teeth fixed! And while we’re at it, it seems like you could stand to lose 5 pounds. What’s wrong with you? You don’t seem to be trying hard enough to correct what’s wrong with you.

Would that be fair of hypothetical me?

This is why you can’t instantly judge people you see on the street, in terms of physical judgement. You can’t say “Oh, he shouldn’t stuff his face”. In fact, I’m going to fucking punch the next person who suggests anything about my weight. I deserve better than that, I’ve gotten enough shit about it and I’m tired of sitting around while people spend their times defending their right to call someone a fatass who shoulcn’t eat so goddamn much.

Are you really so fucking stupid that you can’t even see the contradiction in that statement?

Actually, having read a few of your posts, I can already answer that. Yes. You really are that fucking thick.

Let me try to step you through it then: If you don’t care what I think, why would you want me to ask you a question?

Please try to bare this in mind for the future, as frankly it’s a bit dull watching someone insult themselves.

So go out, like I did, and lose that weight. I’m not being a jerk. I’m being the only homest person in the fuck room. I was a lard-arse. There cam a point (much like the point it seems you are now approaching) when I said enough’s enough.

Get up, quit eating, and go excercise. You’d be amazed how much less down you’ll feel when you hear that first person say “gee, you’ve lost weight”… it spurs you on like nothing ever before. And you feel on top of the fucking world.

Once again, I don’t mean to be a nasty fuck, but I spent *rs[i/] looking for the reason / cause / blame etc. for my fatness. At the end, it doesn’t matter. Does it actually make any difference what the problem was ? No, you’re still fat. So I decided to just attack the symptom - and I lost weight. Now the whole thing seems kinda childish - my obsession with finding out what the problem was.

In case anyone was wondering, I did find the problem. The problem was me. I was just a lazy glutton, trying to pin my problem on something that wasn’t about me.

It’s time for people to step up. In this life you play with the hand you’re dealt. No fair ? Tough shit - same as everything else. Who said it was fair ? It’s life.

Gary Kumquot - I’m not even going to bother…

Somehow, I thought you wouldn’t.

By the way, I really loved the phrase:

“I’m not being a jerk. I’m being the only homest person in the fuck room.”

Tarantula, I must congratulate you. You’re providing me with more fucking comedy material than I could possibly have hoped for on a slow, Thursday morning.

You know Gary, when they say that, you know it’s basically over for them. Can’t come up with a decent rebuttal, so it’s “I’m not going to bother” or the ever-popular “Shut up!”

Yeah. Them’s great debating techniques…

Gary - Yeah. Picking on typos, that’s really good. Keep it up, and I’ll give you a bright shiny penny.

With a brain like yours, I imagine every morning is slow.

Did you see the shite that I was not going to refute ? It had nothing to do with debate. Gary descended into puerile name-calling, and I really have better things to do with my time.

Thanks anyway, for your contribution.

Did you read my post? Any of it? I stated that I was depressed. Some days I couldn’t get out of bed because I was so depressed. So, because I wasn’t able to control my serotonin, which I would not be able to do so anyway, it’s my fault for not getting up and exercising? I tried to, sometimes managing it. It’s MY FAULT?! I’ve been bullied all my fucking life, I’ve been handed enough shit in my life that I could’ve choosen to crumble underneath the pressure and commit suicide or go off the deep end. Instead I choose to continue on and be depressed. So, my depression and being overweight have nothing to do with each other? Is it simply about willpower?

I also got in a car accident about two years back. It’s hard to find a comfortable way to sit afterwards. It also hurts to do continous exercise, especially upper body. I suppose it’s all my fault, eh?(I’m neither of driving age nor was the driver)

You obviously know little about seriously depressed people, and how little willpower they have.

No, my dear chump, the typos were of no amusement. It was the sheer fucking comedy value of your “I’m not a jerk, I’m just telling it like it is” claim.

Of course you are, and damn it why can’t people just see the truth, eh?

I understand quite a lot about depression. And nobody, least of all me, thinks that you should just “cheer up”. But getting out of bed is essential. You cannot allow yourself to stay there. As I said, when you hear the first person comment on your weight loss, you’ll feel great.

Again, I know it’s rough on people who were bullied all their lives. You’re an adult know, and wallowing in (10yr old / 15yr old / 20yr old) self-pity is not going to help the only person that needs help - you. You’ve gotta pull it together enough to start to lose weight. You will feel much better about yourself then.

As I said before, you just gotta step up and take it on the chin. I know it’s shitty - fuck me, I really know, but that’s just life. You’ve gotta do it. It’s actually (if you’re in a similar situation to where I was) do or die. And you say fine “I’ll die”. that’s not good enough. You think no-one cares about you ? Bullshit. You have family that care. Even if all the shit came down and you had no-one left in the world that cared, don’t give up. Don’t let those bullies from years ago win. This is you saying “FUCK YOU, YOU BULLYING CUNT” to that guy.

Stand up, get into your sweats and sweat it off.

Anyway, I’m prolly just making an ass of myself, thinking I can help, were others have failed. Anyhoo, don’t think the world is all evil. Some people care.

Hope you get better soon.

Tarantula.

And ** Gary **… I’m still not gonna bother. You and Yosemite fuck-head can go and giggle together like the puerile dicks that you are…

English fat knacker checking in (5’10", 14st). I have a glandular condition that causes obesity.

I have a gland that makes me a lazy fucker and another gland that makes me drink beer till I burst.

But you see it’s not my fault - it GLANDULAR!

Ask any foreigner what the most noticable thing they find on a trip to the US is, and the answer will always be the Hindenbergs in Lycra that make up a large part of the population.

They can’t all have wonky glands.

Now that’s sig of the century…

:smiley: :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Yep, I have to weigh in (no pun intended) with backing for Tarantula and his no-nonsense “Eat Less, Exercise More” plan.

It really is that simple - it is simple thermodynamics. Come on, you’re all edumacated people here. If anyone can explain to me how the human body can create fat out of thin air then I am all ears. If you don’t eat the calories, you won’t find big rolls of fat spoiling the view of your feet.

Glandular condition or not, you still need to take in more calories than you burn in order to gain body fat. If it were otherwise, we would have an inexhaustible supply of free energy in the form of obese bodies.

Is this like you didn’t bother for your last two posts, or a different sort of not bothering?

I like to ask, because as the only honest person in the room I feel I can gain much wisdom from you.

Please stop the lame arguement.

Gary, you know you’re not gonna get any form of debate about the OPs subject from him, because he consideres it below him to do so.

And Tarantula, and every poster who does this, why post a “I couldn’t care less” message when you’re ready to fire back a message debating how you could care less when someone calls you on it?

Good grief.