Yes, Sanders is very popular with people who don’t vote as reliably as other demographics. And he sucks with the most reliable Democratic voters of all.
Great night for our avuncular friend Joe Biden. Now we have to hope that he can get above 15% in CA to prevent a Bernie delegate bonanza there.
I think the inevitability aura around Bernie is fading. Best case scenario: Bloomberg gets out Wednesday and buys into the Biden campaign.
I’m starting to see numbers. Biden has 51% with about 24% of precincts reporting. Sanders hovering around 18%, then Steyer with 11%, Buttigieg with 7.5%, Warren with 6% or so and Klobuchar far behind with just about 3%.
I’d have included this link to the numbers but it took 5+ minutes for the stupid page to reload and by then I had missed the edit window,
Wish the DNC would just do away with this 15% threshold requirement.
But yeah, that’s a stronger Biden victory than expected. Bloomberg probably now pumping cash into Super Tuesday states with a Keystone XL-sized pipeline.
With 50% reporting, it hasn’t changed much:
Biden 50.0%
Sanders 19.3%
Steyer 11.5%
Buttigieg 7.6 %
Warren 6.6%
Klobuchar 3.0%
Everyone else < 2%
Steyer just announced he is out.
So: impressive win for Biden.
The real question, of course, is how will this affect the voting on Tuesday? Because let’s face it, the first four are for show, Super Tuesday’s for dough: ~150 delegates chosen by the first four states, and ~1350 delegates - nine times as many - on Tuesday.
What the first four really do is tell people in the later states who’s likely still in it, and who’s probably a wasted vote by then. Sorry, Pete, Liz, and Amy, it ain’t looking good for you guys. And with all the millions Steyer tossed into NV and SC, he sure doesn’t have much to show for it. (ETA: as Aspenglow said, he’s out. Wise choice.)
Wonder how many people have already voted in Tuesday’s primaries, and how many are still in a position to take tonight’s outcome into consideration?
Wonder if Pete or Amy will see the writing on the wall, and drop out tomorrow to make a Biden win on Tuesday more likely? Or will they wait until Wednesday to call it quits?
Disappointed Bernie didn’t do better, but not terribly surprised. We’ll know much more about the state of the race on Tuesday.
Did Bernie congratulate Biden?
Otherwise, I assume this was one of those rigged primaries since Bernie didn’t win.
Yes, he did.
It should be winner take all; that would have solved a lot of their problems.
Winner take all? Do you remember how close IA and NH were?
Everyone talked about how Biden could win this primary (instead of Iowa, NH, or NV) because he had the backing of blacks which make up a majority of the Dem electorate in SC.
But Biden still won whites 34% to 23% with Pete at 16%: South Carolina Primary Results 2020 | Live Election Map
It does look like Pete could only win with whites, but why didn’t Biden get earlier wins? Why would white Dems in a southern state like Biden more so than white Dems in other states?
I’m surprised Steyer didn’t hang on for just 2-3 more days, just so he could see out of curiosity’s sake how many votes he’d get on Super Tuesday. I mean, he’s come this far.
Pete was really good with the retail politics and voter outreach strategy in IA and NH. Those voters are used to be coddled, kissed and fawned over. SC is a bit different, Kamala found out that voters weren’t interested in a February primary on the 4th of July last year.
And it didn’t hurt Biden that Bernie won a landslide in NV causing a stop Bernie panic.
Because he’s a pathetic piece of shit with no heart, and that’s what guys like that do. The whole thing was a lark for him from the very beginning, just another thing that he could buy. Well, you can’t buy heart.
Steyer seems like a decent human being.
Him running for president was a giant mistake, but he is a good person. I think he donated $100 million to democratic elections in 2018, and 80 million in 2016.
well, I was wrong about all this. Looking at the numbers, tho, it looks like Sanders got about what was expected while everyone below him did not get the votes expected. Everyone who defected from those candidates seems to have gone to Biden. To me, that looks a lot like a “stop Bernie” effort.
Biden had a fabulous night, gave the speech of his life and will be on the air for free with clips of that speech the next two days. We got ourselves a race again. I think he tops 15% in CA and TX and prevents a delegate bonanza for Bernie.
Yes, like I said- wait for SC. Iowa and NH arent really that important. But honestly the real test is Super Tuesday.
Note that Sanders got whupped by Hillary in CA.