I enjoyed the first two episodes a lot. It’s an interesting middle ground between more serious Andor and frothier jedi-light-saber-action. It moves VERY fast, but I’m finding the story and characters interesting. Definitely curious what happened in the fire, as both twins assumed the other was dead, but also silent-Jedi-master-guy obviously genuinely felt like he deserved to die, while Sol just seems to regret that he couldn’t save them both. Seems unlikely there was some sort of Jedi-child-abuse scandal, so what was it?
Do we have reason to assume that the mysterious baddie is a sith? Could it be anyone else? We did see a red light saber.
I don’t think that Mae is straight evil… after all, she didn’t kill the barkeeper with a kid. And she certainly seemed to have a legitimate grievance against floating Jedi.
I guess it’s a bit unclear how much Jedi in this time frame know/think about the dark side at all. Which might be at least part of what the whole story is about?
I’m hoping this explores where the sequels were initially heading: portraying both sides as individually flawed and incomplete unless balanced by the other.
Clearly at least some of the Jedi did something horrible on that planet, whether or not Mae actually set the fire. She is clearly acting according to a code, wanting to be attacked first, so on. Unclear to me if Sol is as much the good guy as we are being led to believe. Maybe just repentant.
Sith master will definitely be a highly placed apparent good guy.
I’m optimistic for this so far, even with clunky writing. Definitely it’s no Andor but that’s a high bar. Better than Ahsoka so far. Of course Boba Fett didn’t get awful right away so judgement reserved!
The annoying weapons guy is actually the master. According the IMDB he’s only in one episode, and they don’t seem to list an actor in the role of the secret master. Using the Conservation of Characters Rule, he’s the guy. Why would she bring her own weapons guy on a mission? Why does he seem to care so much about her continuing the hunt for the other Jedi, and that whole “Kill at least one without a weapon” thing?
Ok, just pure speculation on my part here but the dark master could be Jedi Master Rwoh. She’s the green skinned one at the Coruscant temple. The speculation is only because she seems rather important but only hangs at the temple.
I could be completely wrong and I’d like to think the creators would want to stay away from a “betrayed by someone in power who we thought was good” because it happened in the prequels, but then again the Jedi seem to fall for the same silly stuff all the time.
Wasn’t going to watch it, but this thread got me to try it. Made me realize that I do enjoy the Star Wars universe, and the action and the motivations have been believable.
BUT, damn it, Disney+, eight commercials in the first thirteen minutes?!? And they pop up at inopportune times, stepping on the end of a line of dialogue. I actually gave up on Secret Invasion because of how the ads messed with the show, coming mid-sentence even!
The fact that most planets have, if not a local Jedi temple, at least a known Jedi. They were supposed to be the guardians of peace in the Galaxy. How do you do that if you all live on Coruscant?
Actual bad-ass Jedi. Sol fought (and disarmed) Mae without a weapon and without allowing her to touch him. Indara was obviously stronger than Mae as well until she let herself be distracted. And the Torbin had a literal impenetrable Force wall around him. This is Vader in the hallway (Rogue One) and Luke in the Light Cruiser (Mandalorian S2) badassery.
The ambiguity - obviously the Jedi fucked up big time on Mae and Osha’s home planet. There appears to be a legitimate grievance there even if murder seems a bit extreme.
Things I’m ehhh about:
I called the twin sister thing about 15 minutes before the actual reveal. A little too obvious.
The precocious Padawan. Not the actress - who is doing fine. The role itself.
The Anakin-level arrogance of the Jedi Knight Yord.
The continued idiocy of the Jedi Council. “I know who she’s going after next.” “Never mind that, come back here so we can have a meeting. There will be bagels AND cream cheese! How can you miss that?”
Indara letting herself be distracted. Rookie move. I thought the Jedi had spidey-sense.
Overall, I give a solid B with a chance to move up in future episodes. Of course, it could also move down…
I don’t think it was meant to be a huge surprise. They explained everything in the first episode. Note that immediately after the murder the next line of dialogue is “Your eyes can deceive you, don’t trust them.”
She’s not precocious - she’s smart and snarky. She’s also played by Dafne Keen of Logan and His Dark Materials, which makes me like her no matter what she does.
I like the idea of a thoroughly mediocre yet self-important Jedi. Every group of people will have people who were good enough to get in but will never be good enough to really distinguish themselves, and the Jedi are no exception. Plus, he’s a bit of a himbo, and I find the thought of a himbo Jedi funny.
“Hey, someone just murdered a Jedi, an event so notable that it immediately involves the Jedi Council, and needs to be both kept quiet and solved quickly, or it will destabilize the Council for some reason. But screw it, let’s just put the prime suspect on a normal prison barge with only two guards, and a bunch of other criminals. It’ll be fine.”
I enjoyed the episodes so I will be putting my own explanations forth. They aren’t canon but they are how I see it working.
The Jedi are still an Order, which is a bureaucratic entity. It was a throw away line that the Jedi were worried about political enemies as well as physical ones. They have a budget, things like transporting a prisoner cost money. I don’t see Knight Yord getting a freighter or transport. He probably had a two seater, maybe four person at best, and wouldn’t want to take Osha in that. Further, we don’t know how she was listed as a prisoner on the transport. The other prisoners probably saw who brought her but the records wouldn’t. Again, my guess on this.
Well, she’s not the one who got them out. It was the droids not understanding what the prisoners could do. So, from that stand point, using droids was dumb, but I guess that those kinds of droid transports are common.
Yes. But.
This was my question. When Mae is fighting Master Indara, she distracts with a dagger toward the bartender. I saw Master Indara spending a lot of focus on the dagger, as if Mae was propelling it. Then Mae uses the secret dagger to kill Master Indara. I gather from this (and the later scene) that Mae has obvious scabbards for the daggers, so the one up the sleeve is a surprise. I can’t see Master Indara being defeated without that trick.
So, Knight Yord. When Master Sol is easily winning against Mae, he takes all of her daggers, except the secret one. The trick works on Master Sol as well. I took it that if Knight Yord wasn’t there paying attention, Master Sol also would have fallen for the secret dagger. Further, Knight Yord followed Osha in the Jedi temple and came to her defense when she was being accused.
I can’t go so far as to call him a himbo but I do agree he’s definitely by the book and trying too hard. What I can’t tell is why Knight Yord was watching Osha so closely. Is it because he wants to believe his friend is innocent? Or until the twin was confirmed, did he see her as guilty?
I like everything in @Zakalwe’s like column. I like Jedi temples on lots of planets. I like the bad ass Jedi. I also like the ambiguity. I think LucasArts accepted the Grey orders of Force users. Has Disney?
I’m doing the world building for them in my answers, I admit that and they might not work for anyone else. I see the Jedi as the UN. They have resources and places all over the galaxy but still have constraints from budget and politics. In my mind, the Jedi Council doesn’t track everything and lets local Jedi make the calls. Perhaps that led to the incident on Mae and Osha’s planet but there are still too many planets for the Jedi Council to give orders on anything. I took it that the fact that the Jedi Council is following this means it’s a big deal. A Master did die.