Eli decided to call them kinos after the Russian word kino, which means theater.
I kind of like it but it’s still too early to tell. It was still really part of the pilot so we don’t have a good idea yet what a typical episode will be like or if there will be a season theme or arc other than getting the ship running and trying to get home. Even though they finally went through the gate, the planet they were on was a mostly empty desert, which was a reflection of the previous episodes on the ship - just them by themselves in an abandoned place battling themselves for control and survival. The main difference was that the episode went full on BSG with the flashbacks and dramatic life stories and hallucinations. It was definitely bleak, and almost a little boring, but it had gravitas. It’s not yet a great show, but it’s very well made.
Yeah that was an unneeded trope in the mist of an otherwise realistically shot episode. I was happy to have guessed the solution correctly though. I was shouting “stick your hand in!” lol
Did they mention that? I definitely think they’ll show up again. Chekov’s gun and all that. When they arrived on the planet I shouted “where’s the DHD!?” I think it’s weird that they don’t have DHDs. I was under the impression that they were seeding the galaxies not to terraform the planets for later immigration, but for actual seeding of human life. What’s the point of giving them gates they can’t use?
No, according to the map they showed, it’s only been through 8 or 10 galaxies so far. I think the explanation is that the ship’s stargate just doesn’t have a large range, either because it’s a ship bound gate or more likely because the ship doesn’t have a lot of power. The planet gates likely can transmit longer distance. It’s also possible that since these are the first generation gates, even the planetary ones don’t transmit as far.
Well it’s been stated that’s it’s not hyperspace or whatever the ancient ships we saw previously had, it’s a slower different tech, so presumably it’s also less energy. Gating between Earth and Atlantis required a whole ZPM, and getting to the ship required some kind of planetary wide energy source so it’s not surprising they can’t gate back. If they were really smart they’d figure out a way to piggy back the Asgard transport beams through the body switching stones 
If that were so I wouldn’t have spent the entire episode yelling at the soldiers for wearing black uniforms ina desert! lol I did like that their sunburns in the end had realistic empty patterns where their sunglasses were.
The map showed it as going pretty much directly away. I personally would have spiralled outward rather than making a beeline but that’s just me. I would think that the second ship would just follow the same path and speed as the first one. It did seem like it jumped near a planet at some point. But when they went to the desert planet it seemed like it was stopped in the middle of nowhere. I might have to go back and pay more attention to that.
By the way, I really hated the way they showed the body switching. A new viewer who didn’t know how those stones worked would have a hard time understanding that the bodies weren’t actually getting transposed. Sure, the girl told her mom that she knew she looked different, but they could have at least had the actors look in a mirror and see the “real” body.
Ummm…if you were watching, they did exactly that for both characters.
Sure, they did it right at first… but I think they should have reinforced it, later on.
Personally, though, I kinda wish they hadn’t done it at all. I much would’ve preferred that the bodies didn’t get switched, you know?
Really? I enjoyed the fact that they switched the actors. I’d rather see that than the injured Colonel trying to be Lou Diamond Philips and failing.
Yeah, it was more fun when I think it was either McKay or Beckett who body switched with a woman, and they ended up kissing. More fun for the actors I imagine too. That’s a bit too comical for this new “dark & edgy” show, at least for now. They’re not going to be able to resist some light hearted fun on this show sooner or later, though.
I got the impression that they were in a bay, which is gone.
I gotta say, for someone whose seen maybe three episodes of SG-1, I’m really liking this show. I loved Stargate, but I could never get into the show. They do a pretty good job of using Eli to represent the new audience, giving him just enough info so we can understand what going on with out explaining everything.
I’ve heard a lot of comparisons to BSG, but this first part really reminded me of the first season of LOST. Starts with everyone already landing on the ship (island), using flashbacks, trying just to survive, and even following a dead guy to water.
One question about something I didn’t understand. How did they finally figure out the code to dial the ship? There was so much running around and yelling in that scene I didn’t quite understand it.
Ahhhh. Thanks. Even spelling it as Kino instead of Keno makes for more relevant search hits. I kept thinking “What does gambling have to do with cameras?”
[Other than casino bettors are always being watched]
The pilot mentioned that the ship had been moving for hundreds of thousands of years, and had gone as far as a few billion light years from Earth. Assuming 300.000 years and 3 billion light years, it would mean 27 light years in one day. At that speed it would take 10 years to get from one end of the Milky Way to the other. I think it’s a fair assumption that they are in some specific galaxy for the duration of the series, at least if the writers have thought about what their own numbers mean.
Rather weakly. At the last moment, Eli says that maybe the “point of origin”, the 9th chevron, should be the symbol for earth. He says that it is like a code that will unlock the gate and establish the wormhole, no matter that the real point of origin is actually the planet they happen to be on at the moment.
This goes against the explanation of how the gate addresses actually were supposed to work. What with using 6 representative constellations to establish the “where to” and the 7th symbol being the “from here” point of origin. In the suspension of disbelief, 8th and 9th chevron gate addresses have always been right up there…since how would one know what the constellations in another galaxy would look like from far reaching distant galaxies? Especially without having been to those far away galaxies. Back in the day…SG-1 found that translation table of addresses from the “5 races” , but I think that was only supposed to be for local galactic travel. For each galaxy, there would have to be a new table and new points of origin with all new symbols on the gates to represent the different constellations.
You’re welcome. I think the shared root word is the Greek kinema, which via French became cine~ in English and kino~ in Russian. Both form words referring to things cinema & film related.
I think your assumptions are off (or at least, the writers’ assumptions). The Stargate universe already has galaxy to galaxy technology, on the order of a few weeks from the Milky Way to Pegasus.
Must’ve been the one where Patty and Selma kidnap Jack O’Neill.
Best was when Vala “stoned” into Daniel. They kept the Daniel body instead of switching it out, and Shanks hit it out of the park.
Bummer, but I think you’re right. I was kinda hoping it was a galaxy per week. That would fit the “universe” theme. As is, they’ve just stuck them in yet a different galaxy. I don’t see the urgency of getting back to the ship within 12 hours or they’re stranded. They’re not stranded as long as Destiny is still within the same galaxy, as we know any old gate powered by a team of gerbils can gate to any other in that same galaxy, right?
anyway, if she’s 3 billion ly out and she left 500,000 years ago* (100s of thousands) she can cover about 16 ly/day. If she left a million years ago, it’s 8 ly/day. If she left 50 million years ago (many millions of years) then it’s only a little over one light year/week.
Hm. Those speeds are fine for tooling around a galaxy, but we’re talking 350-year trips between galaxies. And they’re about 1,500 galaxies away? Probably less depending how much time she spends parked inside individual galaxies. When Rush was displaying the visual log of Destiny’s travels, there was a “bink” sound effect for each galaxy stop. It went bink bink bink at least 10 times we could see, and kept going binkbinkbinkbink after the camera moved back to Rush. I’m guessing 1,000 or two galaxies fits the “several billion light years from home” statement. So here’s a question: how much time does she typically spend inside galaxies gossiping with the local stargates and generally getting into trouble? They’re really lucky they didn’t land on her halfway between galaxies. How long before she decides it’s time to leave for the next galaxy, despite the whining about it from the cro-magnon Ancients who blundered on board?
*This Wikipedia article on the Ancients is an interesting read. The article is short on specific timeframes. What I got from it:
[ul]
[li]Many millions of years ago (before humans evolved) the Ancients evolved in the galaxy now known as the Ori galaxy.[/li][li]Millions of years ago the Ancients diverged culturally from the Ori and rather than go to war, left that galaxy and after “thousands of years” settled the Milky Way and Earth (does that mean they only had sub-light travel tech, expect for stargates?).[/li][li]Millions of years ago the Ancients on Earth built the hyperdrive-capable city ship Atlantis.[/li][li]Millions of years ago the Ancients established stargates all over the Milky Way.[/li][li]Millions of years ago they sent out unmanned gate-building ships.[/li][li]Millions of years ago they launched Destiny from Earth to open up the new galaxies.[/li][li]Many millions of years ago the Ancients in the Milky Way were infected with a (probably of Ori origin) plague and the uninfected took Atlantis to the Pegasus galaxy.[/li][/ul]
So, when Rush says the ship was launched 100s of thousands of years ago and they are currently several billion light years from home I think he’s speaking figuratively about the time at least. Unless there’s a new, untold chapter in Ancient history yet to be revealed, there were no Ancients on Earth 100’s of thousands of years ago. They left millions of years ago and only a few still corporeal Ancients returned to Earth a mere 10,000 years ago, abandoning Pegasus galaxy to the Wraith.
It’s true current Asgard hyperdrive tech can move fast, but if I’m right about Destiny being 1,000-2,000 galaxies away, then even a hyperdrive ship would spend 15 years or more catching up to them. Despite their Asgard upgrades, I don’t think Stargate can, or is currently willing to build a ship designed for an autonomous 30-year rescue mission.
On second thought, if they didn’t know exactly where Destiny was going they’d have to dial Destiny’s full 9-chevron address, which would require power, etc. Never mind.
Do we know for certain that *Destiny *is even *in *another galaxy? Could the ship be in intergalactic space, rather than actually in a galaxy? There are planets between galaxies… but they are exceedingly rare. It would make sense that the stargate-seeding ships would have laid out a path following those intergalactic planets.
I think we saw lots of stars from Destiny’s observation deck, so they’re probably in a galaxy.
There’s very little material in intergalactic voids, so it’s doubtful a solar system could form. Theoretically, an intact solar system could be tossed out of a galaxy during a galactic collision, but that star and its planets, even if habitable, would be rogues with wild orbits around who knows what. A gate bridge built along these planets wouldn’t last long.
Also, the Ancients could make as many ZPMs as they needed, so why waste time on intermediate gates when you can gate directly using eight chevrons? If they did want to make a bridge like that, they wouldn’t even need planets. It’d be easy enough to simply place space stations along the route.
Carter and McKay designed and build a gate bridge between Pegasus and Milky Way, but without ZPMs and the ability to dial eight chevrons, they had to gate along a series of Milky Way gates to the midway station, then physically exit the MW network and enter the Pegasus network, even when the gates were close to each other. I’m not sure if a gate can be reprogrammed to belong to a different galaxy’s network if you physically move it to that galaxy. Destiny doesn’t seem to have that limitation. Her gate can seven-chevron to any gate “within range” whatever that means.