But, in the absence of limits and guidance, how lucky he must be to have your pop psychoanalysis of his character, life troubles, and needs based solely on his posts to this messageboard.
Please be aware that if the statement is too fucking boring or stupid for people to have read or cared about it the first fucking time, quoting it again won’t help. YMMV
Now, I hope you’ll put down the banner of the “Save START Society”, but I doubt you will.
I’d just like to disavow the pile-ons going on against some of the other posters in this thread. I’m suspicious of START’s bona fides, but I’m not going to lend my name to things like
directed at eleanorigby, who I generally think of as a fine, funny, and very nice Doper. Her being willing to give START the benefit of the doubt is something I can disagree with without attacking her personally, thank you.
Greathouse --you sound like an angry person.
Was your post intended to be a chastisement of mine? Based on it I should change my mind and “put down the banner [etc]”? That makes me smile.
Pop psychology? Not really. It’s more experience with teens and teens who are grieving. Grief is odd thing; YMMV.
I’m not actually certain if I’m being insulted here. Is this meant to imply that the post I made containing that statement was invalid as a whole, or are you just taking the opportunity to quote my own disclaimers at me in hope of tweaking my antlers? I must say that, if the latter, it seems a tad counterintuitive. Care to explain?
many thanks, jayjay–you made my day!
Back atcha, even if we don’t agree. I think time will tell. I will say that I would have alot less patience with a fully fledged adult who displayed the posting characteristics that START does upon occasion.
Not angry, just annoyed.
Nope, I didn’t really expect you to change your mind. It simply annoys me when people walks into a perfectly good pit thread and decide they don’t like the tone of the thread. If you want rainbows of love and puppy dog kissses then go hang out in MPSIMS. This is the place to rant about anything, and that includes other posters.
Don’t expect calls for restraint and understanding to be taken seriously. Or you can continue calling the people who say things you don’t like “Big Mean Poopyheads”.
It’s nice to see that you are so concerned about a grieving teen. Undoubtedly it is not mean (because you’re not mean like us) to point out to a grieving teen who you’ve never met (but oddly feel compelled to believe everything he posts to an anonymous message board)…
I was agreeing with you when you suggested that someone who cannot even remember which side of an issue he is on might find that his words carry little weight. Or rather, I was suggesting that there should be no doubt it.
rainbows, puppies?
Poopyheads?
How old are you, 9?
I don’t see my “evaluation” of Start as mean–it’s my opinion. He has read my stuff before this thread, no doubt he’ll read it in future. It is certainly not, unlike some of this thread, mean-spirited in nature.
Far from attempting to change the tone of this thread, I thought I’d bring in a bit of balance.
Do you really want to denigrate someone else’s character that much, that less than harsh posts ruin a thread for you?
That’s interesting in and of itself.
Nope, just trying to put in the correct number of happy shiny references so you’ll maybe be happy with the thread.
Whatever helps you get to sleep at night.
Balance would have been simply disagreeing. Not jumping on the high horse about how mean we all seem to be
It’s not the less than harsh posts. It’s the posts that want everyone to be nice. Fuck that. This is the pit. We don’t have to be nice here and yet we constantly have to have people pop into the thread whose delicate sensabilities can’t handle what’s been said. It’s annoying.
It interests me that some posters think that the Pit is some place where you can metaphorically stick the boot in on other posters, and no-one is allowed to cry foul.
Where do you get the idea that this forum is a lawless ghetto where anything goes? You rant; you take the consequences. Even when you do have a troop of eager Pit monkeys keen to join in your side.
You don’t want to risk you rant being analysed and criticized? Don’t post it here. Go tell it to your dog.
You do realize that START has already posted that he is in a special high school for “bad kids,” and has had to take anger management and other behaviorally rehabilitational classes, correct? It’s not exactly a giant leap of psychology in general to say he’s a wreck and has charecter troubles. And elanorigby is being compassionate and thoughtful, two things which in general one cannot go wrong with.
You, however, seem to have chosen the Way of The Bitter Asshat. Shame.
Um . . . am I the only person who’s noticed that START, who–ahem–started all of this, seems to have taken all of his toys and gone home?
No, I caught his conspicuous absence as well.
What consequences? The consequence of having the board’s self appointed Sunday School teacher come in and tell us all how mean we’re being? If someone wants to either agree or disagree with the premise of the OP then fine. Have at it. But don’t act all shocked when someone says something mean about someone else. That’s what happens here.
Pit monkeys. Ha, good one.
That’s fine, but don’t act all surprised, or high and mighty when you stumble across a thread that is being harsh on someone.
Dude, it’s the ultimate irony, isn’t it? 
Just in case anybody’s wondering, I don’t think the livejournal account “Start” is our boy.
Yes, I am a bitter asshat. I like the pit. I stay in the pit. I don’t go to other forums (generally) because this place fits me and I like the environment. If someone else doesn’t like it then don’t let the door hit you, and all that.
I don’t go into other forums telling them what I think they’re doing wrong and hope they change. Why do people always try to come into the pit and proclaim how mean we all are? Maybe we are mean, but this is the place to be mean.
Well, you know, except for that time HE SAID HE WAS and all. But hey, whatever helps your case…
Dude, my previous post should make it clear that I am no fan of START’s, but you’ve gone beyond the pale. You give the impression of having found a thread centered on one of your pet irritations, and instead of simply giving your opinion and adding to the discussion, you’ve decided to jump in with a mighty howl: “WOO HOO! I’m spraying urine everywhere like a mother fuck!”
Reflects badly on you, instead of on the person you’re trying to knock down, is all I’m saying. If you care about that whole, y’know, “perspective” thing.
Course, if you don’t, well, hey, hose away.
HOW RUDE! of START. 