Really? I would be surprised if my ISP kept every e-mail forever, I think they actually delete them when I delete them (assuming they do not have a NSA hold on my account).
I guess I sorta expected you to know the answer to the question you pose, since you’ve apparently already judged Hillary’s violation as significantly worse. I honestly don’t know, I’m not much of a geek on my best, hell, I’m barely what Tron would have considered a ‘user’.
Depends on the ISP. They do make backups of your email though, they need to in order for them to restore it if servers should fail on their end. but I don’t know how long they keep those backups.
As with anything on the internet, never assume that anything is permanently deleted. Clinton didn’t. But she did make sure that her private server did make anything she deleted unrecoverable. That’s document destruction, unless we believe that she honestly only deleted personal emails. So I guess you just have to trust her.
I’m not even sure it’s really a violation. Violation would imply that she broke the law, and she doesn’t break the law. At least not in any way you can prove. That’s part of the problem, you can’t prove wrongdoing if records are withheld, and that’s her normal MO whenever she’s faced with accusations.
NY Times reports that experts are skeptical that she could have used personal email and not sent classified information.
Of course, that’s a problem for Rice or Powell too.
But it’s a bigger problem for Clinton, and not just because she’s running for President. It’s because she expects us to believe that her and her lawyer’s judgement was trustworthy.
Well, now that you mention Ms. Rice… I have a number of, ah,… issues with how she conducted her office and her effect on US foreign policy. But I freely admit that the security of her communications is not one of them. She wins that point.
How is that different from every other government employee who uses email? If Hillary had a government account for business email and a private account for personal email, you still have to trust her, and every other government employee, to keep the two separate. What are you going to do, subpoena every personal email account of every government employee, just make sure there were no business emails on the personal account? Or just Hillary? Yes, at some point you have to just trust her, the same as every other government employee.
Are there State Department employees who don’t have a government email address and use their personal email instead? I mean besides the one who had to resign.
It is still a matter of trust. Having two accounts doesn’t change that.
Ah, yes. And the reason Clinton needed total control over her email to an unusual extent, even for a Secretary of State, was because she had nothing to hide. That’s also why she told easily checked lies at her press conference.
Ah yes, we know she has something to hide, because she hasn’t revealed it yet!
And that’s why the AP is suing.
This is so much parsing of what she says to try to manufacture outrage. I have an iPad, iPhone and a laptop…I could brag about that all day at some nerd conference to show how plugged in I am. I could also say I’ve set up my iPhone to have all of my emails go through my iPhone, since 95% of my personal emails and web surfing is on the iPhone due to convenience. Those two statements don’t negate each other.
They won’t get anywhere. The server was originally Bill Clinton’s. Since he still gets national security reports, no court is going to give a reporter carte blanche to go fishing in their server.
Wouldn’t matter anyway, since she deleted the emails. However, the lawsuit can still be won symbolically, and of course the AP can ruin Clinton’s campaign if they decide to do so.
If they don’t win a legal judgment, how will we know if they win symbolically?
I presume the AP is interested in the truth, not simply partisan desire to destroy candidates. I give them credit for having higher journalistic ethics than Fox News.
I’m sure the media thinks they are being fair, but an angry media is not a fun thing for a candidate to deal with, as Clinton found out in 2008 and looks poised to again in 2016.
He does? Why?
Adaher: “…And the reason Clinton needed total control over her email to an unusual extent, even for a Secretary of State…”
This is the part I don’t think you’ve actually established. Are you just repeating talking points, or do you have any actual evidence comparing the last 3 SOS’s email usage details that enables you to draw such a conclusion?
It often appears he’s *inventing *them on the fly.