Whoops, Exodus 21:22-25:
And if men struggle with each other and strike a woman with child so that she has a miscarriage, yet there is no [further] injury, he shall surely be fined as the woman's husband may demand of him; and he shall pay as the judges decide. But if there is any [further] injury, then you shall appoint as a penalty life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.[1]Nope. I just had no idea what the quote said, so I looked it up. As it wasn’t the correct quote, and I didn’t know what to search for, I asked for clarification, which was provided. As for the number of different translations, that’s just what the first Google result showed. There were many, many more; I just copy/pasted a representation.
She said on Twitter today that she’s Methodist.
Most “Christians” commit adultery and have premarital sex. Most “Jews” eat pork and work on Sabbath. There’s a big difference between supposedly religious people living secular lives in opposition to what they’ve been taught in their religious studies and actually invoking your faith in opposition to your faith.
I saw. And while Methodists aren’t as hardcore about abortion as Catholics, it is their position that abortion is wrong.
IMO, Joe Biden is an actual religious person who supports Roe, because he makes it clear that there is a difference between his secular, political beliefs, and his personal faith. Chelsea Clinton did not make that distinction.
What political position does Chelsea hold? Or held?
Oh, look - adaher can’t admit it when he’s clearly wrong - never saw that before.
Well look, if she wants to say that her personal Christian faith causes her to support Roe, as a CHRISTIAN position, then that’s fine. But let’s be clear: it’s her personal opinion about her faith, not what her actual faith preaches. The fact that Catholics use birth control doesn’t mean that being pro-birth control is a Catholic position. And any catholic citing catholicism to support birth control is being stupid
Her faith or her church? They are not the same. She can be true to her faith, even if it doesn’t align with what her church preaches.
If your faith and your church as in opposition, there are other churches, you know. Not to mention making up your own faith is just idolotry by another name.
Believing in the inerrancy of the bible is idolatry.
So someone whose faith is informed by their own reading of the bible but attends no church is an idolator? Harsh.
If she actually got that from the Bible, I’d be very interested in hearing her quote chapter and verse.
I’m given to understand that almost all faiths and denominations have exceptions to a ban on abortions, usually in consideration for the health of the mother. As already pointed out, though, “abortion = murder” is not a Biblical position.
Exactly right. It’s placing the tome on the level of deity itself. Aside: in my experience, the inerrantists worship a book which they cannot read.
True, at least not in the Old Testament, but Judaism as a result has always had a more liberal position on abortion than most Christian denominations. If Chelsea wants to drop the Jesus thing and give up working on Saturdays, I’d love to have her in the flock.
Now, as for Christianity, most denominations still call it sin and something to be avoided. Roe, as a matter of law, is far more liberal towards abortion than Christianity is. It’s actually quite unlikely that any state would go further than the Christian position on abortion, which is that it should be legal only under very limited circumstances.
While it’s true that most people do not actually believe in a strict interpretation of the Bible except where it’s convenient for them, there is only one legitimate way to come across a religion: you learned about it somewhere. At least that way, you can keep in your head the idea that thousands of years ago someone wrote a book of wisdom inspired by God, or even directly dictated by God, as the Torah was. If you just decide for yourself what God is and what he believes, that’s just making stuff up. If you worship a god you just made up, that’s just like building something and call it God. You just did it in your head instead of on a worktable.
Boy, that’s not a slanted article or anything… (not a criticism of you, running coach, but rather the tone of the article)
On further research of LiveAction.org, where the article is from, it turns out they’re the “PP is selling baby parts” people.
Last I looked, you ain’t Jesus.
Where did you pull that malarkey from?
p.s. The word is spelled idolatry.
You mean like worshiping Trump over God?