However, it’s possible someone was lying about the cost of AF1 for Bush. Estimated cost was around 55-60,000/hour. Unlikely that the cost would triple in just a few years.
And you vote for socialists? I think it is too late to play the concern troll card, maybe you will have more luck at Pokemon.
In this case what they report is just logical, you can add it up if you want to, but clearly the iffinitus rag you posted is adding more costs that not even the Media Matters article did, so once again you should just go away and just play Pokemon, at least you will make more sense.
BTW, when you follow the links from Media Matters regarding the estimates, one can see that they are pointing at estimated operation costs that **only **Air Force One incurred by going to the Bush ranch and other vacation places. The source of those estimates? The “socialist” and “unreliable” US Air Force.
It is simple logic that ***if ***we add other costs that the rag fudrucker quoted **assumes ** that they should be included, then the costs of the trips under Bush would balloon way over what the *conservative **estimate offered by Media Matters mentioned.
*Once again, a conservative estimate of what Bush’s costs were, because as even the Daily kos article shows, this is referring to simple math and concentrating only with the costs of the use of AF1 and the distance.
Um, people, if you take a look at the only other thing fudrucker’s done around here since he joined up yesterday, it’s pretty clear that he’s just attention-trolling.
I mean, come on, who signs up to a messageboard in order to immediately start a discussion about the diarrhea attack he suffered all over his bedroom floor and then complain because the President doesn’t fly in the same plane with his family? Trolls, that’s who.
Well, it’s taken us four years and 194 pages, but the thread has finally come full-circle.
Move along, folks. Nothing to see here.
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Thanks for restoring some perspective, jsgoddess.
Nah, we just picked up a troll who couldn’t be bothered to read past the first post.
C’mon now. I’m not a troll. A troll wouldn’t stick around and debate with y’all. How about a little civil discourse without all the insults.
Depends on the subspecies. Around here we get quite a few of your kind of master baiters who enjoy continuing to poke the anthill repeatedly.
Sorry, wrong forum. Civil discourse is in Great Debates for serious discussion, or General Questions for factual answers to specific questions, or IMHO or MPSIMS for general lighter fare; and then there are also the more specialized subject forums, all of which offer high-quality mod-patrolled civil discourse as well.
This is the BBQ Pit, where we get to call you out as a feckless moron Republican troll without mincing words about it.
I guess I can’t argue with logic like that. What a challenge it is to hang out with you and your fellow socialists in the feared BBQ Pit.
Shiver shiver. I’m soo afraid
Do you get, like, points or bitcoins or something every time you mention the word “socialist”? Because not only does repeating the word not constitute any argument but it also conclusively demonstrates that you don’t have the slightest idea what "socialist " means.
Hint: it doesn’t mean “anything I don’t like”. See also: Marxist, fascist, liberal, etc.
well go go go free market. God Bless Pope Francis
You mean, Pope Francis, the socialist?
Yes He’s the one. He’s no threat to us capitalist Catholics.
Which suggests how little you know about either capitalism or Catholicism.
GW Bush took way more vacation time.
Shut up already with this idiotic nonsense.
No I use it simply because it describes your political ideology.
Oh I’m fairly certain I know what it means.
Oh right; well done. Perhaps even more accurate descriptions of your ideology.
I happen to be both, from the cradle. I’m quite sure I’m aware of how it works.
Since I haven’t seen you decry public schools, public roads, public water treatment systems, stc., I can only assume you are a socialist just like me. America is a socialist country, and has been since it was founded.