I just read the article that yanceylebeef linked to. Is that even legal for a state to do that??
Unfair to children!
They are like some children. To petulant and small minded, I would like to add spoiled, selfish and all too frequently sadistic.
Fuckin’ geezers and their cheese.
Especially if he, as governor of Wisconsin, is passing anti-Obamacare laws against residents of Florida. Has anyone told Rick Scott about this?
“…Czech sheep’s milk, Japanese sage Derby, Venezuelan geezer cheese?..”
Almost certainly not, but settling that in court will take time. Apparently, anything that delays implementation of the ACA is worth doing as far as they’re concerned.
Yep, they gotta keep people from finding out what’s in it. Else, they might realize they *like *it.
The proper term is Wississippi.
Link goes to a story about Florida and Ricky Perry, not Scooter Walker.
Not that the Fitzwalkers wouldn’t do such a thing.
Ok, I think everyone needs to take 5 minutes to look up US State governors and then come back here and crack jokes. Unless somebody invented Texida when I wasn’t looking.
In my defense, I posted that before I had coffee.
I really should know better.
I wanted to make a joke about Governor Rick Scott Walker, but decided there wasn’t enough there.
Just say, “That gentleman in the governor’s office in that state, you know…”
“… bless his heart”
So his intolerance is Kosher. Yeah, right. :rolleyes:
In my readings on other debates I found a quote from Karl Popper that is relevant:
Fascinating Popperian quote.
I can’t make myself agree. Even the ugliest, most hate-filled, evil speech needs to be tolerated. Morris Dees, of the Southern Poverty Law Center, an avowed opponent of social hatred, says the same thing. If someone wants to publish a newspaper article saying (in one instance) that the Holocaust didn’t really happen, censoring the article is not the right thing to do. Responding to it broadly, denouncing it, correcting it, exposing the underlying hatred, and even ridiculing it, are all proper responses. Use free speech to defend free speech.
Otherwise, who draws the line? Whom do you trust with the vast power to criminalize dangerous speech? Quis Custodiet? What if “they” (you know, bad people) manage to get a majority on the censorship commission? The current example of state and local school boards mandating the teaching of Creationism is a warning against this kind of power.
An attitude which is not only high-minded and generous, but comfortably preserves Morris Dees’ job.
A perfect example of intolerance using tolerance to get mainstream acceptance. “My teacher talked about “intelligent design”, it MUST be plausible.”
No, no it’s fucking not plausible. I have no problem with teachers addressing ID, but it should be “Here is what some people think and here is why what they are saying is not a counter to evolution and why they cannot prove that what they are saying is true and shouldn’t be treated as science.”
I agree that they are proper responses. However, by not characterizing the ugly, hate-filled, evil speech as absolutely SPLENDID, those responses fail your admonition that such speech be tolerated.
Or, so goes the caviling of the Neanderthals who wish to be intolerant without consequence.
Exactly; the Creationists are actually trying to ban speech, even as they pretend they are promoting its freedom. They want to prevent teachers from saying what you just suggested they should say.
Grin! S’truth. They sometimes seem to imagine that permission equates to endorsement. They’re wrong. The hyper-liberal ACLU fought for the freedom of jerks and assholes to march in public wearing Nazi regalia. They also fight for the freedom of all the rest of us to call those neo-Nazis jerks and assholes! Their right to display their insignia in no way implies the government’s or the people’s support for their dim, shallow, hate-filled, infantile, evil beliefs! It just says, “Whatever. Free country. Knock yourself out.” (Sotto voce: “…asshole.”)
It isn’t that hard:
Protected and tolerated:
Left handed people are sinister and untrustworthy. Shun them in all ways!
Not protected and criminalized:
Left handed people are sinister and untrustworthy. Drive them from our midst and kill them!
There are definite gray areas, but we don’t have to tolerate inciting violence.