The software can easily tell you that, at least. As far as I can tell, it has no problem with negative balances. Whoever is running the server can see all players chip balances. It wouldn’t be hard to reset (default is 15,000) for the start of the next quarter if you wanted to start tracking that as well.
Results of 8/12
1 red
2 mental
3 oslo
4 crane
5 nfm
6 root
7 asterion
8 meeko
9 peeker
10 missy
11 ghost
12 duke
13 otto
and the standings:
1 peekercpa 78.7
2 Red Skeezix 74.9
3 notfrommensa 70.6
4 frosted glass 68.3
5 Oslo Ostragoth 63.2
6 Robot Arm 61.8
7 Dag Otto 61.2
8 Gray Ghost 60.6
9 Craneop2 59.8
10 Yeticus Rex 58.2
11 MentalGuy 53.0
12 fubbleskag 48.1
13 MissTake 47.3
14 Duke of Rat 39.1
15 Meeko 39.0
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Oh, come on!** Why even have the decimals at that point.
With my luck, I will climb over Duke the moment he stops for the quarter.
That sounds interesting - I vote we do that.
that sounds fine with me. the only observation that i will make is the observation that has already been made. last counts the same as fourth. that doesn’t sound particularly fair with such a small group.
i also like the idea of a bot as being kind of the median measuring stick. but has been mentioned table position could become a factor. and since we have such a small sample size (13 in a quarter) it would be difficult to make it be statistically invalid.
Technically, it would be pretty simple. But would we want to just accept the default payout structure, or come up with something of our own?
That’s the way a real tournament plays out. One book I read even made a point of knowing the prize structure as a defining element of your own strategy. (You have to consider the chances that a hand will earn you more prize money, not just get you more chips.)
I don’t know if I want to abandon the old structure, though. I was just thinking we might track chips in our accounts as well.
Good point, I was observing a final table tournament at a brick/mortar casino. A guy folded his hand when he was pot committed and he only a couple of antes left.
Later, (after he busted out) I asked him why he didn’t call the pot, even though he had great pot odds and was left with only a couple of antes.
Well, he was pretty sure that he had a losing hand and he was paying attention to the chip counts of the other players. The other short stack at the table was going to be “all in” on the next hand (big blind) and he was guessing that the guy would bust out on the next hand, which he did. He moved up from 7th place to 6th place, a difference of about $50.
I’m sand bagging.
Watching the WSoP Main event tonight on ESPN, Darvin Moon got penalized for “checking the nuts” when he was last to act on the river. He had the nut flush when there was no pair on the table. He knew that he had the best hand but checked because he wanted to see what the other guy had.
Apparently it is to prevent collusion.
I have never heard this rule before and I guess it makes some sense.
His Penalty: sitting out one hand.
By extension, is it a penalty to only call a bet (and not raise) when you have the nuts when you are last to act?
I’m not sure I see how collusion enters into it. And since information at a poker table does carry some value, I think his strategy of checking is valid.
(I watched some of it as well. Didn’t see that hand, but he was getting pretty lucky on the hands I did see. Not Skeezix lucky, of course, but still pretty good.)
One of the poker books I’ve read had a pretty simple strategy for betting after the river. Is there any hand that’s worse than your own, but still good enough for the other player to call? If there isn’t, don’t bet; ou’re risking chips with no chance of winning any more.
As Norman Chad explained, it could be construed as collusion if you playing with/against a partner and didn’t want to take any more of his chips.
I guess in rare cases it could be collusion, but I doubt if he comes up much.
Yeah, but if you are colluding with another player, then you must have some means of exchanging information. You’d just flash him a signal that he should fold, so you wouldn’t take any of his chips anyway.
Failing that, you could find a way to give those chips back to your partner. Wait until the two of you were in a hand again, make a bet, then fold to his raise.
Two players in collusions could easily circumvent this rule. It’s only an honest player who gets punished.
What if you had the nuts, were first to act, and were planning to check raise the guy you were certain was gonna bet, and he just checked instead? I guess a one hand penalty wouldn’t be all that bad, but it just seems strange.
I watched the Moon hand, and I’d never heard of that rule, but the other players had. Seems like this would be heard of more often in something like the main event, somebody’s bound to mess up now and then with that crowd.
I just saw notfrommensa’s post in the thread about Tourney strategy. How can a newbie get on board with this?
Shark Sandwich:
We play Thursdays 10 pm et (that tonight!!!) at Poker Mavens. Here is the link to the poker room. Follow the instructions to download the software. We play on the private server that is currently titled SDMB Poker(chez fubbleskag). The password is “cecil”.
We use AOL IM server for the chat. I had a difficult time installing so good luck with that.
Give us your screennames (Mavens and AOL) so we can connect the dots.
just hit the site that is posted elsewhere in the thread. i think on page 1 (pokermavens). you’ll see some private servers. hit the sdmb and the password is cecil.
we also use aim to talk so you probably need to install that or you will miss out on some of the frivolity
we get going promptly at 10 eastern time give or take whether someone had to deal with a personal crisis like a dog yakking in the kitchen.
it really is a hoot. and the players are very unlike a lot of other freeroll players where it seems like every hand is an all in.
i mean this is king of the dope poker champion we are talking about. that some serious business to be conducted.
see the bastard beat me again.
fucker.
So you guys use AIM to voice chat, or are you doing in game text chat like the other sites use?
Also, is the game always NLHE, or do you play others?
Just a little history: I currently play on FTP, and have played on UB and Stars. Me and some buddies try to get out to Vegas once a year to play low-limit games (2/4 or 3/6 usually). I wouldn’t say I’m a great player; I’m just interested in poker theory.
Sounds like fun!
Shark Sandwich, it sounds like you will fit in just fine with our group, none of us are experts. Although PeekerCPA, aka resident donkey, thinks that I am.
There is a chat in the pokermaven site, but (nearly) everyone uses AOL. I had a very difficult time downloading/installying AOL IM. But I finally got it to work. You don’t have to have AOLIM, but you will miss out on 99% of the heckling, and other chat.
If you can’t get AOL to install, we will let you know the important stuff on the mavens chat.
Hope you join us tonight, we are looking for some fresh blood. We typically have about 15 players and it would be nice to build that up to at least 2 full tables.