That’s sweet of you to think so…but I ain’t buyin it. Lots of opportunities to chat & gossip & catchup & bond while you’re scaling fish, or hauling water, or building a fire together. There were plenty of things they could’ve been doing besides playing snugglebunnies with Adam.
Adam, of course.
I don’t believe he bossed anyone around. I think the worthless pieces of shit TOOK it like that, but that’s not how it came across when he said it. And I think he tried to go along for a long time. Much longer than I would have.
He didn’t burp in anyone’s face and they are out in the wild and have been there for a month. When I was in the infantry and we’d been out in the field for a month, no one bothered to say “excuse me” after burping, trust me.
Well, look where it got him. I’m not really sure what you’re point is. He pissed people off and arguing that they shouldn’t have been pissed off is besides the point. You have to get along with your tribemates in Survivor and you especially have to get along with your alliance-mates after the merge.
The object of the game is to win $1M, not to be “right” on any given issue, whether that’s food or fire or water.
Survivor isn’t the infantry, and Becky (or one of the other girls) specifically recoiled from the stench of Jonathan’s burp. That’s just one of the many little things that up to “irriatating to have around camp” that equates to Jonathan, and every single person on that island agrees about that.
Anyway, I guess this isn’t a GD thread, so if you think Jonathan isn’t obnoxious, fine. But as far as the game goes, all that matters is what other people perceive, and there can be no doubt that they all perceive him to be obnoxious.
When Yul handed the idol to Parvati to examine, the correct response is not “It looks authentic.” The correct response is: “Thanks for the idol, sucker!”
Also, I think Becky realized something else during Yul’s plotting: Even if Yul is planning on taking Becky to the final two, he was plotting on a way to not have the jury be mad at him and not give him the votes. By default, then, he’s plotting on how to not have people vote for Becky. In front of her. And she just realized that.
Well, she’s pretty stupid then. What you said was that she suddenly realized Yul was playing to win. Playing to win… Imagine that! 
I wonder how well all of us armchair Survivor types would be at keeping in mind that this is a game, and you’re supposed to try to win.
Yul is anything but dumb. Nor is he naive or overly-trusting. I believe it showed clearly that he held onto the strap the whole time.
I also notice a look of dawning realization on Becky’s face. Or maybe it was a look of disbelief at Yul’s crassness in discussing his final vote strategy in front of her. Yul was thinking out loud, and I don’t think it was in the forefront of his mind as he was saying it that the final vote was the point at which his and Becky’s interests diverged (and that maybe he shouldn’t be talking to her about how he was going to win over the jury).
Well, yeah, but I don’t think she’d been planning past Final Four yet. That’s my take on it, anyway. Lord, there’s just so much that we never get to see.
I don’t have Tivo, so I can’t check. But I remember thinking “Don’t let go of that, Yul…Oh, crap. I hope she gives that back.”
Anyone with Tivo care to check?
Nice cite, but TWOP gets things wrong, too.
Did I hear Jeff call Ozzie" Dolphin Boy"? I swear they read these boards!
Yes, he did. And I thought, “Oooh, rockle’s gonna be mad! That’s Ian’s nickname.”
Jonathan is continuing to show he can play a good game on every aspect except the social interaction - which admittedly (as he himself seems to realize) is a huge part of this game. He played the auction itself prefectly but then screwd up when he got back to camp. When Candice was making her stupid remarks about him being a betrayer he should have pointed out that she was the one who jumped first and had betrayed more people than he did. And he should have said something simular at Tribal Council to point out that Candice, Adam, and Parvati had all voted with him to betray three of the four people on the jury. The only sense I can see about Jonathan’s play this week is if he’s intentionally making himself unpopular to increase his chances of being carried to second place.
Yul also made a misstep this week, as others have already written. He’s gotten so used to using Becky as his sounding board that he forgot the difference between strategizing to advance his alliance and strategizing to advance himself.
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This 45-year old gets a kick out of seeing clueless, lazy youngsters getting pawned (is that the correct hip terminology?) on Survivor.
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I believe the current phraseology is “pwnt” (without the quotes).
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[nitpick] Close, but no pizza & beer. The phrase is pwned, which comes from a typo at a gaming site many years ago. Gaming teen dweebs were hooting about “owning” someone at a particular move, mistyped it as “pwned”, and then did a lot of that ROFLMAO OMG’ing that ensues, and somehow managed to turn the typo into one of the Cool Kidz phrases. I’m sure Adumb, CannedAss and Poverty were sure they would pwn this game until last week’s final vote. Their faces at Tribal Council, along with Nate’s, are right up there with Coby’s. And this 53-year-old is lovin’ it!
And while I’m confessing to age-resistant technology knowledge, I just have to recommend to any other aging Doper the beauty of HiDef: we just got it, and I feel like I’m watching Survivor for the first time! All the rolling eyes and pouting are crystal clear, all the six-packs are stunningly defined, the moptop is delish and unruly, and Rockle, you’d plotz when you see the eel barf up that squid! I did!
I predict that the level of stupidity of the questions at Final Tribal will overtake that of Judd’s.
except for the part where I screwed up the quote coding… :smack: :o :rolleyes:
That would have been hilarious.
“Looks authentic.”
“Yep, now give me back the idol.”
“What idol?”
“The one I just gave you.”
“I don’t have an idol.”
At first I thought Adam was calling Jonathan a fast-moving rodent. It sounded as if he said ‘darty rat’.
I, too, was surprised when Yul revealed that he had the idol. Of course, I was glad because it made Candice’s trip to Exile Island even more depressing, but I think that it did nothing to advance’s Yul’s position.
I cannot believe how stupid Candice was. First she mutinied from her team, knowing full well that she was alienating her former tribemates. She had to know a merger was pending and should have stuck it out until then. I picture her as a sorority girl who just cannot function without a support group around.
And then she turned on Yul by telling Jonathan everything Yul had said earlier simply because she was mad that they were eating fish without her. Why piss off the most powerful guy in the game, especially when you know you already have a huge target on your back?
I also think it’s telling that Adam did not intervene in the argument at all and try to defend or defuse Candice while she was sinking her ship by yelling at them for not sharing the food that she neither caught, prepared or cooked.
And that kiss from Adam just made me go, “Ew.” I doubt Jonathan shared his toothbrush.
Disagree. By revealing he had the idol, Yul saved Candace a lot of useless digging around in the sand. If Yul makes it to the final two, that might be enough to win Candace’s vote.