Survivor: Palau 3/16 (Wednesday) (that's TONIGHT)

DAMNBIT! I knew it was on, I checked my DVR and even erased conflicting programming.

My DVR still took a break for the NCAA. I will be watching it later today, so the Rich Ratings will be delayed.

Not necessarily. The purple rock of death is used for the Final Four, where a 2-2 tie is a stalemate. Once you take the 2 people out who are voted for, you have a 1-1 stalemate. Last night’s vote was 2-2-1. Once you take the 2 out who were tied, you have either a 2-1 or a 1-2 vote, so no tiebreaker is necessary.

The Ulong girls should have gone with their girls vs. boys plan, then Angie would still be there, and Stephenie wouldn’t be in the bad position she’s in now. The guys really are the weakest link on that tribe. She had to be regretting that last night. I hope she sticks around anyway though, I don’t like anyone else on that tribe.

Honestly, I’m surprised Koror picked Willard for their team at the very beginning. Maybe they didn’t want to seem like they were not picking the older guy just because he’s older. I wasn’t surprised at all to see him be the first to go.

For the record, having both teams going to tribal council was dumb, IMO. I don’t really care as much about reward challenges, I get really into it with the immunity challenges though.

Damn. This is the SECOND time an underdog girl I was rooting for got shafted by the game. :frowning: Why didn’t Angie mutter ‘James’ to Stephanie, or vice versa? If James had gotten two votes and been in the vote off with Angie rather than Bobbie Jon, Angie might have won. But against BJ? Hey, he’s the guy who does all the work, they can’t vote him off.

The first was…damn, senility, I forget. Suyiii? Something like that. The Asian girl who thought the tribes were merging as usual when they were just going to live on the same beach. Ooops.

He’s shown himself to be an excellent swimmer. But he wears glasses. I can’t help but think his problem was he couldn’t see those bottles without his glasses.

I think the odds of Coby and Gregg’s secret alliance actually working are low.

  1. It seems way too early to show it to us if it is going to work. After all, we would have to wait at least a couple of weeks for payoff to begin. Burnett tends to not edit game altering alliances like that. His payoff tends to be quicker.

  2. If this secret alliance is unable to execute payoff until after a merge, it gets thrown into flux based on who comes over from Ulong. I bet Steph and Bobby Jon would vote on the side of Tom and Ian. James and Ibrehem are tougher to fgure out though.

That was Shii Ann, in Thailand. I liked her too, the first time around. :slight_smile:

I thought he just dove to the left instead of the right and ended up out of the line of sight of the bottles, but you may have a point there.

I think they were harvesting the bottles left-to-right. By the time it was Ian’s turn, all the bottles were way over to the right; he jumped in on the left side of the wreck and they were all on the other side where he couldn’t see them.

Which would have been a clever strategy, if people on the loser team were psychic…

They did, I think. They would have gotten away with it, too, if it weren’t for those meddling Koror Kids. (Heheheheheheheh.) Ibe would have been out, 4-1. But after immunity (and because Ulong failed to have a Plan B, as usual), the wild-card vote was Ibrehem – he voted for James at first. Angie & Steph voted for BJ, BJ & James voted for Angie, and Ibe voted for James. Angie got shafted mostly because, for whatever reason, Ibe remained loyal to BJ (even though BJ would have voted Ibe’s ass off if he could have). I think Steph realized who James & Ibe were going to vote for, and she didn’t want to be the one BJ vote, thereby sealing her fate and ensuring she would be next voted off. She’s smart, that one, but she’s stuck with a bunch of coconutheads.

oh, and if the first couple people back had told Ibrehim “All you have to do is grab the bottle and pull, don’t bother trying to untie them.”

I found something out that explained her pick to me (somewhat) by watching the Insider videos on the CBS Survivor site. I’ll spoiler it, just in case there are people that don’t want the extra information:

Stephanie is in an alliance with James and Bobby Jon. James mentions the alliance when he cast his vote for Angie in the first vote. That doesn’t explain why Stephenie voted for Bobby Jon in the first vote, though.

Personally, I liked the Tribal Council/Reward thing. It was a *great * reward for the winning tribe at any rate, both getting food and getting a view of the other tribe’s vote. I’m not so sure about the extra person being voted off the winning tribe, but with 20 people starting off the show, they have to unload the extras sometime. As it was, it gave Koror a chance to unload some dead weight. I just wish it had been Caryn rather than Willard.

As for the next challenge, I think Koror might be in trouble. They chose Willard, Caryn, Katie, and Janu to sit out the last challenge, which means the three that are left have to participate in the next one. That’s three really weak players and one (probably) strong one against four reasonably strong ones.

Koror was as much suprised by the immunity vote as Ulong; remember it was 3 for Ibrehem, 2 for Bobby Jon and Stephenie, and 1 for Angie [from Gregg (!)]. The 4 votes I saw on the Insider video didn’t have the Kororites giving any reason for their individual vote. BTW, the 3 votes for Ibrehem were from Janu, Katie, and Jenn, which makes me suspect Koror managed to get the most destructive result for Ulong because the gals like their eye candy.

Ulong’s greatest mistake this week: Thinking they’re still in it and voting to keep the strong players.

They need to start thinking merge. They need to think that they’ll need to go into a merged tribe, and pick up the minority Koror players who aren’t in Tom and Ian’s camp. I don’t think that Ibrahim/Bobby Jon/James can do that.

Koror didn’t pick Willard; Caryn did. And her logic was blindingly obvious at the time; someone who’s an even more obvious choice for the chopping block than her.

I’m kind of suspecting the whole Gregg’s secret alliance thing may come to naught; if I were him, I would have made my power move this episode and got Coby, Jenn, Janu, Caryn, and Willard to vote out Katie. Takes out Tom/Ian’s voting ally, but doesn’t actually hurt them in the IC’s and RC’s.

Except that the next challenge will be a reward challenge, which frees up all of their strong players for the immunity challenge. It was a smart move.

Great episode. I liked the twists even though I feel sorry for Angie-- she really redeemed herself atter the first day. You have to wonder if her little crying fit in the jungle was editted to make her look worse than she actually was.

Tom better be thinking post-merge, and get Stephanie on his side with a few of his own tribe mates. He’s gotta know he’ll have a giant bullseye on his back once they merge. Same with Dolphin-boy.

I think that should be obvious to Tom, but I’m not sure about Ian. There’s a chance he may still see himself as more of a lackey-type player who’s not as much in the forefront. Certainly, the other members of his tribe don’t see it that way, but I’m surprised we haven’t seen very many Ian confessionals to get his take on it.

As it goes, I really think that Greg is playing the best game right now. I’m not a big fan of the “hook up with the hottie” strategy, as it usually paints too big of a marker on you, but it seems to be working.

It was a good episode. Although I join the others in saying that it’s not fair for both tribes to have to vote someone out regardless of who wins.

I’ve been saying they should do this for a long time: No merge. Just let the tribes battle it out to the last person left. The dynamic with the losing/winning tribe is the biggest reason for the improvement in this season, IMO.

My husband and I were surprised that more people on Koror didn’t vote for Ibrehem, as it was the most wickedly logical choice. The whole point of Koror getting to listen in on Ulong’s tribal council was to learn that tribe’s strategies and weaknesses. Ibrehem made it perfectly clear that the tribe intended to vote him out. Therefore, the best thing Koror could have done would have been to force them into keeping someone they obviously want to get rid of, probably/possibly breaking up an alliance by forcing them to vote for someone else, and take advantage of the fact that they have no time to even discuss it before they have to pick one of their other members off (and hope they were too stupid to come with a backup plan already in mind). It was an absolutely brilliant move, and I’m somewhat surprised to learn that it was the women who ended up making it happen, even though we don’t really know what their strategy or motives for doing so were.

Great, great episode. I am really liking these unexpected twists this time around (unlike the ridiculous “Outkasts” stunt, which made me angry, or ineffectual stuff like dumping them off the boat in their street clothes unexpectedly, the suspense and repercussions of which lasted all of one episode). It’s making it more exciting to watch this season – it was becoming way too predictable and boring.

Awesome episode…sucky that Angie had to go, but thems the breaks.

Last night when Jeff said at Tribal “OH, we’re not merging” I got the vibe that he didn’t just mean tonight. You’d think he would have said “We’re not merging tonight” shrug Just a vibe.

As soon as Ian got on the raft, I said to my hubby…he’s blind as a bat without his glasses…and with the way he was diving around, it seemed to me like he couldn’t see.