Survivor: Palau - Week 3

Kuror (Tom, I think) said something like, ‘Well, even if we don’t win the challenge, we still have a latrine and a shower.’ I don’t remember Ulong looking at it that way. If they didn’t, then it really points out the differing attitudes between the tribes.

Someone in Ulong mentioned that Kuror was outhinking them. I don’t remember exactly what was said; something like, ‘They’re beating us with strategy.’ At least they are able to see why they’re being beaten; though they aren’t really doing anything about it.

James amused me. He was trying to be complimentary to Coby, admitting that Coby had kicked his ass; but phrasing it as ‘being beaten by a homosexhul’ just made him sound like a redneck. I couldn’t believe his condescending attitude toward the women during the lavvy construction. I’d trust my ex-fiancée to do construction on my home before I’d trust myself! (She’s really good at it.) And there’s James giving a tutorial on how to use a stapler! Seems a nice enough guy, but he needs to get out more.

Speaking of which… I felt bad for Angie. She tried so hard. She really needs a break. (And I’m not just saying that because I find her the cutest, or because she lives in my favourite city.) I think the women were a little hard on the men. James got creamed in the IC, but Ibrahim came back all right.

I loved it when Jeff put Kim on the spot in the TC, and she had to say that she just sat on the boat. Ouch!

Ulong’s problem is that they don’t have a leader. We’ve all seen what happens to self-proclaimed ‘leaders’, so I understand why no one wants to step up to the plate. James seems to be willing to do it, at least for specific tasks; but he doesn’t seem very good at strategic thinking. (And his ‘If we don’t win, I’ll kick somebody’s ass’ motivational method doesn’t fly with his city-folk teammates.)

Angie is a tough competitor, but she is an ‘outsider’. That is to say (and this is only an impression) she’s lived her life pointing out how ‘different’ she is from ‘normal people’. I think that when you go out of your way to make a point of that, that you might come off as deliberately confrontational. She’s probably not used to people ‘taking orders’ from her, so she doesn’t have what it takes to be a leader.

Bobby wants to show people how hard a worker he is. That’s good, but he’s striving to be useful. A leader would not just go off and work. A leader would find a task that requires teamwork, and then get the team together to do it. James did this with the lavvy, but there’s a lot more to be done around the camp that he’s not taking the lead in. I haven’t seen any leadership skills in Bobby.

Tom is an awesome leader. This will probably cause trouble after the merge, but it’s good for defeating Ulong.

I’ve watched every episode of Survivor except for one a season or two ago that I missed. I don’t remember Pagong, but I know what it is to be pagonged. If Ulong doesn’t get on the stick, then I hope they let them self destruct. Obviously they would have to merge when there are only two members left. My choices would be Angie (of course :smiley: ) and either James or Bobby. They’ll be pagonged straight away, of course. (Kuror might just get rid of Caryn on GP first though.) I’d love to see a season where they let one team just die. Won’t happen, but it would be interesting.

I chuckled. It reminded me of Robb from Thailand after Sook Jai lost the baskets competition (the one where he tried to strangle Clay)… “We lost because of the stupid RULES!”

I also loved JimBoy’s comment about the toothbrush holder- something to the effect that “Everybody has a toothbrush but me. I don’t brush mah teeth. I’m a redneck”.

Gotta give Kim props for trying to rally Stephanie and Angie into voting a guy off. Too bad it was way too little way too late. I missed the voting at the end- I know Kim voted for James, did everyone else vote for Kim?

And, IMO, Karyn suffers from a massive Napoleon Complex. Or a Chihuahua Complex.

“You found Nemo.” That was pretty cold.

To be fair, Probst did let Kim point out that only Bobby Jon and James were fishing–the other four were just there for the ride. They haven’t said why they feel the need to paddle out to fish–nobody has before. They also haven’t said why they’re not following up on their plan to make hooks and line from the sewing supplies.

I’m kind of surprised at the violence and physicality of the last two episodes–first the big dunking match, then the pontoon fighting. It was kind of funny watching people try to talk smack, though. These people do realize they’re talking smack to potential jury members, right?

Ibrehem has the biggest pecs I have ever seen without an Internet connection.

Intense paranoia? Nobody wants to leave the two fishing alone together where they can talk too long?

I think that all of us 'Bamans are cheering for Bobby Jon (Troy) and Ibrahem (Birmingham) rather than James (Mobile) anyway. They can’t get rid of James fast enough for me. It’s just weird that all 3 are on the same sad team.

Ha! Kim just said, ‘[James] did as well as I did out there [on the IC]!’

What’s also weird is that James has one of the thickest redneck accents I’ve ever heard in my life (and I grew up wwwaaaaaaaay the hell and gone in the Alabama backwoods) and unlike Bobby Jon {born & raised in Troy [small college city in central AL} Ibrehem {born/raised in Birmingham- city of 1 million+/-} James spent his teen years in Illinois. (Re: Ibrehem’s pecs: doesn’t he though? It’s almost cartoon quality.)

I’m glad that they’ve kept Ed Bradley (um… I mean Willard) around for as long as they have. It’s good to see a 57 year old regarded as vital in a test of physical endurance and mental agility- gives me hope for my next 20 years.

You know what I think SURVIVOR needs more of though? Product placement…

I think you’re right–they never even told us who provided the tools last night!!

Other than the original picking of tribes, Willard hasn’t been in jeopardy. His tribe hasn’t gone to tribal council once.

I half expected them to show a big CRISCO bucket for use in the toilet along with a Martha Stewart Collection shower curtain and a tampon dispenser made from a can of barbecued Pringles. Burnett’s just not thinking.

While I’ve enjoyed this one (it’s the first one I’ve watched in years), are they ever going to get away from tropical islands? I’d like to see one set in a desert (they planned to do one in Jordan, actually, but that was offset by 9-11- still, the U.S. and South America have plenty of deserts for them to play in) or in the mountains (Alaska would seem a natural- not in winter of course, but safe enough in summer) or even a grassland would be an interesting switch. (Of course SURVIVOR: CABRINI GREEN could really be interesting, especially if they had team names like ‘White Crusaders’ and ‘NoI Posse’.)

Yep, I thought the same thing. Who ARE those guys…?

Good epsiode, and good ridance to Kim. That team is in a world of hurt and they better hope that Probst does a mix-em-up next week.

There is no way Tom is going to win. Unless he gets a real solid alliance going, he’ll get kicked out as soon as they merge.

:smack:

Still, it’s good to see he’s earning his keep.

But, he was raised in Tennessee. He sounds like people I grew up with in southern TN. So maybe his accent is a combination of TN and AL.

I’ve been watching Survivor since the get-go and I must say that Kim has to be the most worthless contestant I have ever seen. It seems as if she thought she was going on a Club Med vacation and couldn’t be bothered to break a sweat doing anythng to actually help her tribe. She begged out of the latrine and shower building competition because she was feeling dizzy, and she practically jumped off the platform in the American Gladiator competition. What a waste of a hot body.

On another subject, did the preview indicate some sort of shuffling of the tribes? I’m wondering if Mark Burnett ordered a couple of the Korors to join the Ulongs in order to even out the tribes for future challenges. After all, at some point, you can’t have 9 competing against 3 or 4, can you?

I was thinking about that. What if they decide to bring back the two people (the lady who wouldn’t stop singing and Jonathan, I think his name was) who weren’t picked for tribes at the begining and add them to Ulong?

I don’t see it as being necessary to “save the show”. If the Ulongs are losing, let them lose. Eventually they’ll all be gone and the Korors will have to turn on each other - it’s the nature of the show. But realistically, there probably will be some kind of shuffle in the near future - by now, it’s expected.

I was thinking how Angie and Stephenie might benefit from their tribe’s collapse. I think we can assume James will be the next Ulong to go. If they lose another after that, the two women will probably stick together and convince one of the men to join them in voting off the other (and they’ll vote him off if it comes to that).

But at some point, the tribes will merge and it’ll become individual challenges. And the factions have already emerged in Koror. Bobby Jon and Ibrahim will be the obvious first two to go if they’re still around, as former Ulongs and strong individual threats. But the Koror minority will be looking for some new allies to help them outvote the Koror majority. I see Coby going to his original ally Angie and trying to renew their alliance. Bring Stephenie in and the four Koror outsiders would now outnumber the five man Koror majority alliance.

Survivor: Australia wasn’t that great. The outback whipped the player’s asses and turned them all into dried out husks. It was pretty ugly.

Besides, the producers have learned that desert settings disappoint a key demographic - viewers who like to see the contestants in swimsuits.

The preview only clearly indicates that both tribes will boot someone next episode. And as for Burnett plucking a few Korors to join Ulong, I really don’t think he’ll do that; unless there’s a strong immunity scheme for the Koror players, it essentially rewards Ulong for being piss-poor team players, and is a signal to future Survivors to not give 100% during the team immunity challenges.

Burnett’s stunts are all an attempt to hide the fact that Survivor’s inherent game mechanics pretty much guarantees a dull midgame.