The kid is a girl, FWIW.
And Ted Nugent’s a fucking idiot dickhead, but didn’t we already know that?
It was a long time ago. I didn’t and wasn’t offering up my poor memory of a radio interview as an authoritative cite.
nobody said you were Una.
What does
We have always been at war with Oceania mean?
It has something to do with all animals being created equally, some more equal than others, I guess.
Re-read Orwell’s 1984. It is a paraphrase of a lie disseminated by the Ministry of Truth of Oceania (the name, in the novel, for England). When Oceania went from being allied with Eastasia to warring against Eastasia, the populace was told, “Oceania has always been at war with Eastasia.” Additionally, all references to any other state of diplomatic relations were systematically expunged from the record.
I’m just saying if I got the sex of the baby or the quote mixed up somewhat, then people should rely on a better reckoning before comdemning Nugent too much for past issues. I only remember he said something very inflammatory that was along the lines of what I posted, and that’s all.
They let him have ammo too… (shudder)
Just out of morbid curiosity, does Ted consider himself a Christian or America a Christian country? Because the irony of accusing Muslims of lying about Islam being a religion of peace, of being nothing but heartless genocidal murderers, and then calling for the extermination of over a billion Muslims is a little hard to stomach. I wish I hadn’t already taken my iron supplement; I may have to call poison control.
It’s a reference to Orwell’s 1984, Oceana was one of the countries that the inhabitants of Big Brother’s country were taught to hate and fear.
I don’t think alluding to the right author, but the wrong book, is really going to help Vanilla.
Vanilla, in 1984 (which you should read), one of the two Great Powers against which the protagonist’s country was intermittently at war was Oceania. The people had been so conditioned to accept the words of the government that the shifting alliances in the ongoing wars could be announced in mid broadcast and the people would accept them without question. In the midst of a report about the war, Oceania, which at the start of the broadcast was an ally, was suddenly reported to be the enemy. When the protagonist asks whether they were not at war with Eurasia, his neighbor replies that, no, they are at war with Oceania, “We have always been at war with Oceania.”
Weirddave was suggesting that “suppressing” Nugent’s opinions is tantamount to embracing the world of thought control portrayed in 1984. (Of course, reading the thread, one might get the sense that Weirddave may have conflated the reponses of TwistofFate and Musicat just to have an opportunity to throw in some Orwell, but the phrase is from 1984.)
Actually, they were always at war with Eurasia or Eastasia. The British Isles were in Oceania.
So, what’s his position on Muslim angels?
No doubt he thinks they’re a figment of the liberal commie cult-loving press.
Actually, Great Britain was Airstrip One; Oceania was a union of Great Britain and North America.
Now I’m going to have to put on that DVD. Boring, pedantic book, but a terrific movie.
They’re probably evil too.
:: cackles evilly ::
Hey, Starving Artist, my fine dumpling – would you say Ted Nugent is just another ignorant, egotistical celebrity who should keep his fat yap shut about world affairs?
:: snerk ::
“just another ignorant, egotistical celebrity who should keep his fat yap shut about world affairs”
Too many words. Fucking asshole is easier to say 
No, I’d say this is another example of liberal bias at work. If some liberal do-gooder had said something that stupid, we’d never have heard about it.
You’re ducking the question, dumpling. Put up or shut up: Is Ted Nugent mouthing off on public affairs as abhorrent to you as Linda Ronstadt? If not, why not?
