I know I repeat myself, but it was a “planned attack”: the enemy was unknown, his specific objective and overall finish too, the group was divided, their status unclear – what does the 101 of military action recommend, no, demand in such a situation?
Which is an additional reason to communicate the situation.
This is not the Brady family on vacation caught in an unexpected, terrifying war, these are all supposedly militarily programmed/trained and experienced fighters – they just don’t show much of it, when it goes beyond shooting someone/something.
I didn’t say I expected her to “run off” but to call Sarah (the “think first” approach to problem solving, which should be Cameron’s thing). And even then I would have seen reason in her decision to free Derek first, but then she should have gone straight to John/try to find him and not amble around.
Besides, Derek didn’t know either where John was, so he couldn’t have led anyone to his location – though the information he had were still too dangerous to let him stay a prisoner for long.
This might be one of the cases where we simply have to agree to disagree because we go around in circles.
hmmm… so during the kidnapping, they implanted a transmitter, yet at the end of the episode, it was pretty clear that they intended to kill her.
Not sure why they would’ve spent the time implanting a transmitter if the intent was to kill her after they got the info - surely they wouldn’t have planned her escape (and therefore the death of the operative).
Was the goal to capture Cameron and kill witnesses? If so, no reason to leave Derek alive and waiting…
Maybe it was to find Cameron who’s chip would help greatly in making their own terminator and to find John, who’s death would kill the future resistance.
That’s something I’m wondering about. This group that knows about Sarah & the team, how do they know and what do they want? AFAICT, they’re run by Dyson’s AI which shouldn’t know who John is or have a need to kill him because that AI wasn’t sent back by future Skynet with future knowledge about a resistance that hasn’t started yet.
If we extrapolate from the kidnapping episode, there is a “foreign” interest that patched up the kidnapper - he/they got info from Sarah about John (for sure, mentioned by the kidnapper to whomever he was talking to on the phone) and possibly other members of the team.
I ‘think’ the mission of the team was to capture Cameron and kill the rest - after all, if you want to capture a patient at a hospital, you can do that without the need for firepower.
I’m still bugged by Sarah being bugged - Cameron should have detected the signal (she demonstrated her ability to scan humans for medical stuff in the library episode) - and there was no reason to bug her if they intended to kill her - you simply wouldnt plan for Sarah’s abiltiy to escape - leave her to be rescued, sure --.
This third party likely doesn’t know about the future skynet, is probably just a ‘tech’ company trying to steal secrets - possibly run/influenced by the proto-skynet.
Interested to see where they take it - I still think they are being pretty clumsy in the way it gets layed out - but atleast now we have a “reason” behind the kidnapping episode.
I don’t know. It could be skynet but there are a few problems with that assumption. Sarah was bugged and Skynet would have went in for John WAY sooner then they did. Plus, Skynet wouldn’t have a use for Cameron. Plus, unless Chromartie had a way of communicating with skynet, they shouldn’t know that Cameron is in the “present.” Atleast, Chromartie had no idea when she was in the classroom protecting John during the 1st episode.
So it could be a third or fourth party (depending on whether or not Weaver is skynet or a third party).
So who was the guy on the phone with some basic knowledge of terminator anatomy?
Could these guys be working for Weaver? I’m assuming Weaver can change her voice at will. Maybe she’s the mystery man.
Also, Ellison told a blatant lie about never catching Sarah Connor and neither Weaver nor John Henry caught that. Or atleast they didn’t react to it in any way…
That’s the beauty of time travel to the past. If you want to send a message to the future you just need to bury it somewhere and someone in the future can dig it up at any time.
Whomever he was communicating with knew, and they even downloaded some schematics to his PDA.
I think John Henry caught it. He’s the type to notice, keep it quiet, and ask Ellison about it later. If Weaver knew I don’t think she cares. Killing the Connors isn’t her mission.
I agree and I want to point to one of her statements when she told Ellison, why she named the terminator that he gave her “John Henry” (in “Strange Things Happen at the One Two Point”):
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John Henry defeated the machine. But he couldn’t stop progress. *
Is it John Henry’s mission to stop the proto-skynet (the machine), while being unable to stop progress (her, the artificial life form)?
I can’t say I wanted that character dead, but I think they did it in a good way. It came from nowhere, instead of some long drawn out sequence where it becomes apparent that he will die, but fights as a hero and so on.
Like I said, a pointless death. At least Charlie, non-action hero that he was, went out fighting. Derek just rounded a corner at exactly the wrong time.
Oh, and if John wanted Ellison dead at the end, and we know Cameron wants to kill him…why did he survive? She should have been able to put her fist through his chest without even slowing down.
Wow, didn’t see that coming. Show of hands, who here wants to be John’s next older male influence? Yeah, didn’t think so.
It’s looking like Weaver & Sarah might be on the same side, sort of. Weaver doesn’t seem to value individual humans much, but … thinks John Henry could save humanity?
The guys in gray sure as hell know a lot. Weaver and Sarah both are their targets, and now they’ve got the Charlie Jade Terminator working for them too?
Yikes. Next week should be good. This show is helping me get over Battlestar Galactica being finished, but Fridays are really going to suck after T:TSCC is over.
So: plugged in the brainpan, positively ID’d during an autopsy, then cremated and buried in a potter’s field.
I…guess they couldn’t get a bear to chew on his corpse, then piss on his ashes?
Anyway, not to rain on the parade, but I’m not putting a lot of stock in the unexpected killing of a major cast member, right before the season finale, in a series that uses time travel so heavily in the plot. (Double )
Now that I’ve said that, natch, he’s probably done for. Tis the way of things.
