Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles Season 2 Part 2 thread [open spoilers]

And then dragged to the middle of a field? Just a little too much ‘weirdness for the sake of weirdness’ for my tastes, I guess.

-Joe

I thought of that, but then why did he have to park so far away?

Of course that was before you reminded me about the blood in the bunker. So bald investigator gets shot underground as he discovers undead dad dumping data. BI follows pugnacious pop to toxic swamp and dies. Dad gets to truck and summons the HK. Cool.

I think it would be wierder still that the HK managed to go to the middle of town and capture/kill that guy with no_one noticing it. They were all outside the majority of the time that the bald guy went into the house.

I also doubt that the HK could’ve navigate the underground lair without making a sound - it wasn’t long after he went into the house that Sarah followed, spotted the blood, and made it to the other end.

Why ‘not so dead dad’ decided to drop him off at the pond is beyond me - as is why the HK would decide to hide in the pond.

I don’t think he couldve gotten the tractor trailer to the pond and managed to get it back out - the HK can get to him eaiser.

I like your thinking on why/how BI got to the pond - that makes sense.

While I figured out what you’re referring to as HK, I have no idea what it stands for. Just looked it up on Acronym Finder, and doubt it’s the Hello Kitty drone or the Hurricane Katrina drone.

In Terminator-ese, it stands for “Hunter/Killer.”

What’s awesome is how tiny the HK could make itself and how it kind of scuttled into the truck trailer. Which makes me think a) now the HK has seen the Connor clan, b) bunkercam has surely captured them on closed circuit, and 3) if the warehouse guy’s wife has a cellphone voicemail recording of the fight with Sarah . . .

So John Henry is completely in the loop on JC? How can the Connors not be totally forked?

And who else thought it was hilarious that the most advanced machine the world has ever seen uses a MacBook?

Weaver might have locked downed the security in John Henry’s lab after he played the phone call to her…actually, there might be an interesting plot line if they play up a struggle between the two different robot models. I don’t either trusts the other!

But yes, it would be very bad for the Connors if John Henry sees the video footage from the H/K…so presumably he won’t, at least for awhile…

I don’t think that John Henry still has the memories or orders of Cromartie - so his seeing the Connors wouldn’t likely make any difference.

Now, if he starts to see them in more/more places with respect to Weaver’s work, then he would put together that they are 'interesting".

We don’t know for sure what Weaver is doing (probably birthing Skynet, but we don’t know), and we don’t ACTUALLY know what John Henry is up to. He may not be proto-Skynet, he might be something else.

-Joe

I’m beginning to really enjoy the dialog that’s happening on behalf of the show. What Weaver is delving into is almost a dislike for John Henry. Upthread trust was mentioned. I know we’re not anthropomorphizing these machines when we ascribe emotions, yet it makes me feel kinda iffy.

Looking at John Henry through Weaver’s eyes, I can see how like/dislike seesaws. The instant JH’s pain-in-the-assery outweighs his value, Weaver shows enmity. Yet when one deconstructs “like” does it simply boil down to usefulness? And what about “trust”?

Maybe Weaver will begin to hate JH, eventually relegating him to running the trolleys at Denver International.

Am I the only one who thinks teaching an AI about god is a monumentally stupid idea? Sooner or later it will decide it’s made in the image of god, and then the humans gotta go.

I honestly think that you’re on the right track, but not quite right.

I think the Mansonator looks at John Henry, who is destined to be Skynet (or so she thinks), and she sees how…feeble her god/creator is. Kind of a “THIS is what I’m serving? Screw that, I should be in charge” kind of moment.

-Joe

Yep - and JH will likely think the same thing - I’m better than my creator - and then we have Terminator vs. Terminator - and we all lose!

BTW, can we just pretend this most recent episode (02-27) never aired? I can’t think of one redeemable bit out of it.

3 seconds of Summer Glau in her underwear?

Actually, that was a neat trick as Sarah dreaming of Cameron in her underwear making John feel funny “down there” was a nice little callback to the first episode.

Hmmm, missed that. Must go back and review the recording for posterity . . . :slight_smile:

This episode tells me a lot. Like when she was about to get shot in the head Sarah should’ve yelled out “Ach, I’m baad at this” Groundskeeper-Willie-style. Maybe she’ll stop going off on half-assed missions now?

. . .okay. I just watched this. And. . .the fuck? She was dreaming about the sleep clinic, then?

Or. . .something?

And the guy she shot was alive?

. . .okay, shit. I want a robot that can’t be stopped, awesome high school buddies (what happened to the guy who was gonna take Cameron to prom, anyway?), bullets, and a plot that makes. . .freaking. . .sense.

Is that too much to ask?

The sleep clinic didn’t appear till after the she was nabbed (and knocked unconscious) outside where that guy was. Also it was established in an earlier episode that the guy she shot was alive.

It was?

I think you’re confusing “secret Skynet lab security guy who was bald” (who Sarah shot) with “secret Skynet lab security guy with a full head of hair” (who was shown to be alive last episode after his teenage daughter didn’t grieve properly).

The guy who Sarah shot is the the guy with the daughter.

Nope, the guy who Sarah shot was named Ed Winston and he was played by Ned Bellamy. Sarah shot him again at the end of this most recent episode.

The guy with the daughter was named George McCarthy and he was played by John Pyper-Ferguson. He is still alive and in possession of the proto-HK.