Well, I just thought you got those on every visit to Mexico, sorta like a return stamp. 
Thanks though, that makes sense.
If nothing else, I think that scene confirms this is well-trod ground (so to speak) for Cameron in the future and that she and John are definitely knockin’ servo motors.
I really liked this episode, but I do have to wonder why Cromartie followed Ellison into the church. It was so obviously a trap. I mean, we’ve seen before that he’s willing to use humans (and let them live) to complete his mission, but that is a braindead level of trust for a supposedly unstoppable killing machine.
I’d go with overconfidence. It was obviously a trap, but unless they had another Gun From The Future…why should he worry?
-Joe
One line confused me.
Sarah noted,
“I don’t like the way he responds to you.”
I may be misquoting.
How would you take that? I couldn’t figure it out, neither could Slantwife…
One way to look at it: how should a mother feel about her horny teenaged boy hanging around with a sexy fembot that obeys him?
Another way: I’m not comfortable with my son lowering his guard around a robot that was originally programmed to kill him and has been known to revert to that programming as a result of what passes for normal daily occurrences (e.g., Cameron getting blowed up).
Because apparently he can be killed with small arms fire?
This did not make sense to me either, but we’ve never really seen a Terminator display anything but a brunt, brute force approach and take whatever damage necessary while the stayed singularly focused on their target. So my guess is its a matter of their design - once the “terminate” routine flashes on their HUD they take the shortest path to the target without any consideration given to self-preservation.
Fair, that may have been what she meant.
I suppose I was thinking that your proposition for her internal dialogue went without saying, but this is TV, and sometimes there’s needless repetition.
In the episode with the military school they killed a terminator with a very powerful gun loaded with very heavy armor piercing rounds. I don’t know enough about guns to know if it makes any sense to think that the gun Cameron was using was loaded with super bullets of some sort, but it doesn’t seem implausible.
But they did have a Gun From The Future, Cameron, and Cromartie knew about her and her malfunctioning chip.
Or, “I’m not comfortable with my son’s infatuation with a robot that makes psychopaths seem warm and fuzzy even when it’s functioning perfectly.”
Remember, John doesn’t know about most of the people Cameron’s killed - the ones from last week, for example. Sarah does.
Of course, all the other explanations could be equally correct - I think the point is that there are many, many excellent reasons for Sarah to be very unhappy.
Regarding the chip, in the episode where Cameron made a pretzil out of the other terminator, they determined that the chips now self destruct before they can provide anything useful.
In that episode, they used a .50 Barett sniper rifle at close range. Probably with armor piercing rounds. The army uses them to shoot the engine blocks of trucks and APCs.
It’s kind of BS that Cameron could take out Cromartie with a shotgun to the head after seeing Ahnold (and Cromartie for that matter) not being taken down by entire SWAT teams). It would have made much more sense for her to sneak up behind him while he was firing at the windows and pull his chip or power cell or something.
Three shotgun shots to the head. At close range. And Cromartie was still twitching. He would have gotten up if John didn’t put the final bullet in his brain… chip… whatever.
Plue, all of those SWAT guys were using regular rifles, probably without any kind of armor-piercing bullets and aiming for the chest, which is armored. Firing at the head, directly at the chip, is probably much more effective.
Yes, but she was a fresh-from-the-future Terminator. Cromartie is very likely the oldest Terminator running around the place. Doesn’t likely have the flash-flash upgrades.
-Joe
Not a great assumption, in this case.
Cromartie showed up before Pretzilgirl; while we don’t know when he was sent back vs her, it’s feasible he was manufactured prior to that feature being added.
Uh, I’m guessing that’s a response to “why was Cromartie playing the radio”—not my crack about the episode soundtrack. Unless we’re having a Dada moment, here. Which isn’t unacceptable, actually. Pigeons!
Cameron was able to use a shotgun effectively on Cromartie because his head had already been taken off by a future gun and was not properly re-attached. The force of the shotgun loosened the connection wires to the body enough to cause twitchiness. John’s final shot severed the connection entirely, but the director did not shoot the last scene in a way that unambiguously demonstrates this to the viewer.
I really like this show’s characters and how they grow and develop. They have a good group of actors playing them. Headley is especially interesting as Sarah. I’m looking forward to seeing how she will react in the long run to the news that Cromartie found them because of the kid from the bowling alley that she let go (after Cameron killed the rest).
Even John’s friend is written and played pretty well. She was likeable–though we may have seen the last of her.
I’ll miss Cromartie–he was a good villain and, again, the actor did a great job.
“Riley, when we get back to LA I’ll call you.”
John, not what she was thinking about.
-Joe
Or she was just using Shotgun slug - Wikipedia at close range not much is going to be able to stand up to those.
As to not trying to decipher Cromarties chip, the last time John tried to do that they almost ended up wiped out when the AI got loose thanks to John stuffing up.
That being said I dont think we’ve seen the last of Cromartie, I think that he may have copied his AI to the T-Ellison, that would explain why he took the body away with him and what happened to it afterwards.