Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles Season 2 thread [open spoilers after it airs]

Neither, who was killed was the doc’s receptionist, so red head terminator could fake being a replacement from the temp agency and off him, presumably.

And yes, I’m kind of at a loss as to why they don’t all run around with a couple of tasers all the time – those terminators do shut down when subject to high voltage, if only for a short time, right? More useful than bullets at least…

I have doubts about the redheaded terminator going to kill the doctor.

Why go to the bother of topping the receptionist in order to replace her and kill the guy? If it was gonna kill him, all it had to do is go to the office and do it. No need for any cunning infiltration plan as people wander in and out his office all the time.

True. Maybe to make it look like his receptionist killed him, instead of a random murder?

If she was going to replace her and protect the doctor…well, it’s not like Terminators could really convincingly perform a sapient supersedure. Not to someone who knew the replacee.

-Joe

She wasn’t going to impersonate the receptionist, I thought. Just kill her, take her job and establish herself in the shrink’s life for whatever reason.

Of course, she also could’ve been there to kill him and the only real reason to whack the secretary was because the show needed an arbitrary killing to show how serious the situation was.

Reference: Star Trek, shirt, red.

I dunno. I like the idea that red-head was there to protect the therapist, because he’s going to help nurture a young AI. But, that feels sloppy. The temp agency was “sending someone over.” That couldn’t have been red-head. Did she kill the new temp too? How long would she have lasted pretending to be the new temp? Not only would the temp agency wonder why every temp they send over disappears, but the therapist surely would quickly realize his new temp is way weird.

Also, the Weaver CEO terminator, to me, is clearly following a different agenda from the other terminators. She isn’t just following a “kill this person or that person” program. She’s nurturing an AI that just might turn out to be Skynet. Or who knows, an alternative to Skynet?

Redhead couldn’t have played the new temp for long, so the therapist would have to be in imminent danger and she’d say “come with me if you want to live,” and rock his world. But, other than her, there was no danger. Weaver hired him, and he’s not on Sarah’s hit list, so what would redhead be protecting him from?

Unless she was supposed to stop the therapist from helping raise this new AI, that is not Skynet.

Didn’t Crazy Uncle’s girlfriend from the future say things were pretty confused about the time she escaped? Terminators hunting, terminators helping, or something like that? Maybe Skynet’s trying to stop an anti-Skynet that isn’t just John.

Blah, blah, blah. I think too much. But I like this show!

why not?
we know that Cromartie has previously tapped lines so she could’ve too

Red Headed Term with Delores Herbig voice: This is Happy Time Temp agency, I’ve got the perfect replacement for you.

Excuse, but don’t they likely know about the psychiatrist helping John, too? Which makes it a potential two-fer:

Embed yourself as the replacement secretary and wait for a while, hoping that John arrives for a session and can be snuffed. If for whatever reason (what the hell is Excel???) the psychiatrist gets suspicious you off him and thus muck up whatever he’s supposed to do with alternate-Skynet.

As far as Weaver having a different agenda, she walked right by John Connor (though his back was turned) as he spoke to her little daughter. I don’t think she cares about John.

no, that scene was deliberately left vague.

Oh, okay. That’s kind of what I thought you meant, but it also looked like you might have missed the ending. Also, as it turns out, Sarah is kind of freaked out by it, too.

Why do we think the redhead was sent back to kill the therapist?

And, if she mugged the (male) bus driver to get those clothes, where’d she get the boots?

She walked right by him, but she didn’t even look at him. So she missed him, even if she was there to kill him.

She’s not just a kill-bot. That much is obvious. I’m wondering why she’s bothering with the daughter. No good Skynet reason for her to be kept around.

Maybe the Future John knows something that shows he can’t win with just humans, so he’s trying to get an alternative Skynet built to counter or destroy Skynet-Skynet?

-Joe

Sure there is - she’s the CEO of a large company, and hence a public figure. The daughter is part of her cover.

But it was implied that the helicopter crash which killed her husband was caused by the Weaver-nator. Surely a similar “accident” could be arranged for the daughter. Hell, kill her and say someone kidnapped her, she’s the daughter of a rich white woman after all.

If she was to fake a kidnapping of her “daughter,” she would also have to show some emotion when talking to the police and possibly the press. It seems like she isn’t capable of doing so. Maybe that is the reason why she hasn’t done something like that. I know, that when the time comes, I wouldn’t want people investigating me while I’m plotting to make a doomsday device or countless terminators.

Killing the father, taking his business and keeping the child around to appear more human doesn’t seem like a bad idea.

But, Weaver is actively searching for other Terminators. Why is that?

Was Weaver the one who caused the helicopter crash, or did a T-888, and Weaver intervened before the T-888 finished its mission?

I think that was the point of this episode - to show that Weaver’s job is to oversee the creation of the Terminator AI, and she’s not on an “Assassinate John Connor” mission.

Though inevitably I think there’ll be a confrontation.

Why bother? She has the company, she is the sole owner. The kid is just something else that can blow the cover.

If the husband died in the crash, no reason for Daisy Mae to survive it.

-Joe

Having a child attracts less attention, but you’re right, it could also blow your cover. My theory is learning to deal with a human child is important to the story, and feeds my theory that Weaver isn’t following a “preserve Skynet’s past” programming, at least as we currently know it.

Agreed. Learning the human child builds a better mousetrap in the long run.