Major score by Toronto!
It’s now 10-10.
Oops while I was posting it got corrected. It’s now 16-10 for ARgos.
Point after is good, so 17-10.
Argos 34-16, two minutes to go.
Damn. Even when I don’t know who’s playing, I root for the west. Thanks for calling the game!
41-24 final. Cup goes back to the centre of the universe.
As a Toronto fan who knew that the Argos were underdogs going in, I was pleased with the outcome. Arbuckle did better than I thought he would, and the Argos were helped by staying alert and looking for interceptions where they could get them. Which they did.
I was probably the only Argo fan in the sports bar here in western Canada, so I wasn’t too loud about it. But it must be said, even if only here: ARRRRR-GOS!
The momentum clearly shifted with that rouge in the third quarter!
Post-mortems on 3Down Nation, TSN, and well pretty much any sports coverage, are not kind for the Bombers. Consensus: they bombed.
Three years ago, they went into the Grey Cup hoping for a three-peat. They got it last night, but on the wrong side: first team to lose three Grey Cups in a row since the Als back in the 1950s.
They deserve credit for qualifying five times, though.
Coming from Treaty 2 territory, the traditional lands of the Dakota, Ojibway and Métis peoples, I could never not cheer for Winnipeg in a Grey Cup. If Toronto had been playing any other team, I might have been rooting for them, but not yesterday.
I was very happy to have three young Indigenous people welcome to the unceded, unsurrendered, and untreatied territories of Musqueam, Squamish, or Tsleil-Waututh peoples. That’s a fact that needs to be better known throughout Canada - people think of unceded territory as being somewhere you need a helicopter to get to. Nope! It’s Vancouver, it’s Ottawa, it’s Halifax… If there were any justice, all the municipal taxes from those cities would go to the First Nations whose land it actually is.
I didn’t care much for the opening act - New Country is just not my thing, though he played well. The singer who led the national anthem was truly awful - it’s always a pet peeve of mine when someone tries to make it into a pop tune and add their own little diddles and flourishes, but in Vancouver?!? I could name you about 20 other singers from various genres who would have done a better job!
The Jonas Brothers performed well, but what do they have to do with Vancouver, or even Canada?
As to the game, this was the first time in a long time that I’d see a game get away from a team. First half, Winnipeg looked great. Somewhere in the third quarter, the wheels started to come off, and Toronto didn’t let up.
I’m happy to see that kind of sportsmanship in a game of that level - nothing dirty, the refs missed that one pass interference call. It was fair and square for O’Shea to call them on it, even though it was not going to make any difference by that point.
You evidently have not closely scrutinized the activities of the Roughriders over the past couple of years. 
We were wondering that. One of the servers at the sports bar noted that, “They’re Disney performers. I took my daughter to see them years ago, when she was maybe ten.” She (that is, the server) wasn’t impressed by them then, and the halftime show didn’t do anything to change that impression.
Sometimes entertainment is just entertainment. It is probably a stretch to use that word here, but if the organizers want to get whatever they can get instead of reuniting the remaining living and healthy Canadian members of Spirit Of The West, that’s their call.
New question.
Trudeau is who he is. I thought Justin, Freeland, Ford and others dealt reasonably competently with Trump and Lighthizer in negotiating USCMA.
Harris didn’t vote for that either. It seems likely presumed renegotiations in 2026 might be more difficult this time round. It would not bother me if Canada spent more on the military, we gotta defend the Arctic.
The papers are full of snark about how Trump’s top team supposedly dislikes Trudeau. The actual examples are pretty weak beer: some comments on border crossings, some mild sniping on Xtwitter, some comments on wokeitude.
Wondered how Dopers felt renegotiations might go. Obviously, everyone is guessing at this point.
Respectfully, I disagree strongly. This is Canada’s game, more than basketball, baseball, or even hockey will ever be. I see this as our chance show what we have for talent, and using US talent sends the statement that ‘we don’t have anyone Canadian who’s good enough to do a half-time show’.
Fuck that shit!! I don’t care if it’s k. d. lang, Sloan, Drake, Broken Social Scene, Feist, Bryan Adams, Colin James, Charlotte Cordin, or some Canadian stadium act that I’ve never heard of - this is our chance to whip it out and say ‘This is what we’ve got - deal with it!’.
And no, I’m not vain or delusional enough to think that it would ever be me, at least not for the warm-up or the half-time show.
(I do a very good job of the anthems, if I do say so myself. Certainly better than the semi-comatose young woman who couldn’t hit a single note without scooping into it from below!)
… Great Big Sea, the Irish Descendants, Shania Twain, the Barra Macneils, Paul Brandt, Corb Lund, Prism … the list goes on and on.
Plus, I see where BTO is headlining a concert tour this spring, together with April Wine and Headpins.
No shortage of Canadian talent, that’s for sure.
Sounds (heh) like we didn’t miss much at the sports bar where I watched the game. We missed the anthems; the bar staff was trying to sort out which was the Grey Cup sound feed from all the other sound feeds. They found the correct one by the time the game started, thankfully.
I like dozens of great Canadian bands, and have seen my favourites live on many occasions. I respect you think one of the many worthy Canadian ones should play at the CFL finals. I don’t disagree it might be better. But I can’t get very worked up about some alternative. If U2 wants to play, so be it. If the biggest band they can get is American, I will still sleep soundly enough.
Trump doesn’t like Trudeau because Trudeau talked shit about him openly and got caught doing it:
I’m not looking forward to the Conservative government that is sure to replace the Liberals in a year or less but I guess it is some consolation that they will get along with the Trump administration better than Trudeau could ever hope to.
While I think that there are many great Canadian acts that could have played, and I would have preferred a Canadian act, I’m not really bothered by the choice of an American act. Although I would have been happier with American acts like Aerosmith, Bruce Springsteen, Garth Brooks, Bon Jovi, or ZZ Top, among many others. Heck, I’d even go for British bands—at the sports bar, we were actually talking about bringing Paul McCartney and Ringo Starr in for the show. Well, maybe next year (we wish!).
But the Jonas Brothers? A boy band from Disney? I think CFL fans deserve better than that. Unless the CFL is trying to court the “teenage teenybopper,” or even the “now fully grown, formerly teenage teenyboppers who remember them” demographics, then I think that the CFL could do a darn sight better. Even if the act had to be American.
I agree, it’s an embarrassing choice. But I also don’t understand the NFL deciding for many years that rap and hip hop are its only choices, even though I enjoy this music.
Bottom line: I personally care much more about the football than the halftime show.