Do we have any evidence that they didn’t actually have sex? Jan has previously exhibited behavior that indicates that she likes to get a little kinky and spontaneous with Michael, and my impression of her was that she feels constrained and uptight in her role as an executive but has outbursts of insane horniness where she just goes all out, so to speak. As Smitty said, I don’t think Michael is even capable of picking up on subtlety; I think Jan was turned on by his open declaration that they are lovers and went to town on him in the bathroom.
I liked the scene after the kid awoke, with Dwight sitting in the chair.
And when Jan answered her rhetorical question, “That’s what she said.”
I also wondered why Toby went for the duck, given his hot, bouquet-catching wedding date.
I wonder if Toby’s hot date was bought and paid for? There was no mention of her before or after. Escort service anyone?
I did like that Karen was being mischevious this ep. She’s been so boring lately.
I am very luke warm on this episode. Still some great jokes and funny momments but I fear the direction the show is taking and am begninning to think the UK model was the right one – bookend it, don’t run out of material, tell A story. I think we’re dangerousley close to heading into Friends territory. Believability is heading out the window (and, yes, insane as the show was, it was all too believable). Roy is a scary motherfucking freak who needs to be incarcerated (I guess believable, but not in a 1/2 hour comedy kind of way).
On the whole *30 Rock * has taken the mantle for funniest show on television. Now that show kicks some ass. "The sun’ll come out, tomorrow . . . "
Heh, a “crawl space”.
“Michael, welcome to our party.”
“Jan and I are lovers.”
Psssst… why no MNIE thread? Must have been a repeat.
I wondered how long they were going to allow Roy’s ‘nice’ act. The character is an abusive, self-centered one, and his pursuit of Pam is only because she puts up with it and provides sex. Now that she’s decided to become assertive, Roy isn’t any too pleased, so the kiss confession was a good excuse for an explosive breakup. Kill Jim? Nah. He needs his job.
He probably gets really drowsy and quiet after a little, uh, release.
And there was just enough pandemonium with Roy’s brother smashing the barstool. Maybe I’m a little sensitive about domestic violence, but Roy’s escalating reaction sort of freaked me out. The over-the-topness at the end took the scene from “psycho” to “ok, that’s funny enough.”
Another nice little touch that shows what a schlemiel Michael is: Showing up at the party with the same attire as the caterers. A lesser show would have followed with the zany consequences by his not changing clothes.
I think they needed to make Roy’s reaction severe enough that Pam’s decision to dump him would carry a sense of unequivocal finality. When she said “This is over,” the audience understood that she wasn’t being wishy-washy and that there isn’t any chance she’ll try to resurrect that relationship anymore. I though the show was kind of doing the audience a favor there. It let Roy go far enough over the line to let us know that it wasn’t just jerking us around with another Pam/Roy breakup. It was letting us know that relationship is completely over and we don’t even have to speculate that it will ever start up again.
What sucks is that we have to wait six weeks before we find out what (if anything) Roy tries to do to Jim.
The Roy scene;
First, I gasped when Roy freaked out and threw something at the mirror.
Then I laughed when his brother joined in out of nowhere.
Good point.
We do? 
Yeah, she had some weird turkey-neck thing going last night.
Usually hot, but she dropped a few points with that episode.
His brother had failed in some Jet-Ski deal and they were supposed to go drown their sorrows as guys. “Well, we’re going to a bar.” When his bro starts smashing things, bro says “damn Jet-Skis!” so he did have some sort of reason to join in.
I must have missed part of the joke. Creed knows a lot of people, because he makes fake IDs. And?
Anyhow, a hilarious episode. Dwight at the party, Karen’s prank, Pam returning a beer then smiling proudly at the camera…
Didn’t Roy’s brother at the end say something about paying for the damage and Roy asked if he used the jet-ski money, to which the brother replied yes?
I, too, thought Roy’s reaction to Pam’s “confession” was completely over the top and startled me. But if I were Pam, I would never felt the need to tell Roy about it in the first place. What purpose would it serve for him to know?
I think the humor lies in Creed’s gleeful amorality. He’s a complete sociopath… but he’s amiable about it.
The kids were about 17, and they were in a bar. Also, I think he said the laminator was stolen from a paper supply company.
I was confused about the jet ski thing. Roy said his brother “took a bath” on the deal. Was he selling them and got haggled way down? Did he buy them for way more than they were worth? That doesn’t explain the money, though. Were the jet skis stolen? :eek:
She tells him, he’s cool with it, and she can fully immerse herself in starting over with him knowing that he’s matured and things will finally work out between them.
Or,
She tells him, he throws a shit fit, and she’s able to comfortably walk away with finality knowing that he’s not right for her.
Either way, it was a critical admission for her to make in order to determine the course of future events.
Agreed–although I think that Pam was just feeling her oats and being all empowered and stuff, and she was bound to tell him in that state of mind. However, being Pam, she couldn’t judge the moment properly, and chose a time when Roy was a) drinking to get drunk, as he’d announced hours before; b) hadn’t had time to absorb Pam’s new declaration of assertiveness to begin with; c) was in a bar where a guy can go sort of wild and loud and not in a quiet, sober environment where he could have taken the news better; and d) was with his idiot enabling brother, who would have his back no matter what.
I have to go back and see exactly when Roy told Jim that he was OK with the past flirtation and crush, and had Jim virtually tell him to his face that it was over and everything was OK. I think it was the guys meeting in the warehouse one. So while, nope, it’s not right to yell and throw things, Roy felt betrayed not only by Pam but by Jim, who he probably thinks lied to his face and then kissed Pam after the warehouse conversation, leading his weak-minded cutie astray.
Six weeks?? Goddamn! :mad:
No, much better: he stole it from the Sheriff’s office. 
I had to pause the show to laugh like a hyena at Michael drinking 20 year old single malt scotch:
“Can I get some ice . . . maybe some Splenda?”
I too loved the brother just blithely joining in the violence. BTW, yeah, he just sold some jetskis, for what he considered too low a price. Then he wound up using his meager profits to pay off the Poor Richard’s people not to call the cops.
I think Jan’s bathroom quickie idea was pretty simple - she said right out she likes their relationship when they’re alone and having hot monkey sex. Since she was so mortified by Michael on their first evening dating in public, she tried to recreate the good part of their relationship to make herself feel better.
I also noticed Karen looking kind of unattractive. I think she just looks really poor in profile, and we got a lot of shots of her from the side this ep.
I really like **Dio’s ** interpretation of the Roy blowup. Thank you once again, *Office * writers - you are good to us!