Did anyone else notice that the Governor’s gauze eyepatch was clean when he started talking, but bloodstained on the bottom by the time he finished, as if he’d started oozing. I thought that was a nice touch by the costume/makeup folks!
At the risk of doing further damage to suspension of disbelief, how painful/incapacitating is an injury like that, IRL? It looks absolutely awful and I think I’d still be laying on the floor screaming while the Gov is stalking around giving speeches. Leaving aside infection, would the trauma have been life-threatening?
I’ve had a severe eye injury and the ER put a drop of something in there that took the pain level from a 10 to a 0 in less than a second. As useful as they are, eyes are not vital organs.
It was not a human head, it was a zombie head because everyone turns into a zombie when they die.
The only possible way it wasn’t a zombie head is if they did enough brain trauma to prevent coming back as a zombie, which would have killed him before they lopped the head off anyway.
I see no way they took the head off while he was alive.
That sugestion was made by Andrea and Michonne didn’t dispute it.
I think you’re missing the salient point. The Governor took a perfectly healthy (okay injured) human being, murdered him and took his head as a trophy. Nobody’s arguing that the dude was literally alive when they cut his head off. Just that he was made dead either by the Governor’s hand or on his orders.
It goes without saying that the governor had him killed.
I’m confused why people don’t think it was a zombie head, though.
EDIT: What I mean is, I saw no obvious head trauma on the pilot head, and I saw other aquarium heads moving their mouths, so I assume the pilot head was also a zombie head.
Nobody thinks that it wasn’t a zombie head. Perhaps some posters could have more carefully chosen their words but nobody is arguing that the head wasn’t a zombie. They simply meant that the head was removed from a person that was murdered rather than removed from some zombie they found.
And decapitation may well have been the method of killing him meaning the head wasn’t a zombie head until after it was just a head.
I was thinking about this some more, and I realized why his use of the word terrorists bothered me so much - it indicates that they were innocent victims of bad people, which we know was far from the truth - the Prison Gang wouldn’t have been there at all if Merle and the Governor hadn’t kidnapped and tortured Glenn and Maggie. His people in Woodbury don’t know what a piece of crap he is, but we do. I guess part of his reasons for using the word terrorists was to stop anyone from questioning why those big, bad men were showing up and messing with them.
I havent noticed anyone mention this yet, in the last ep the Gov had a pretty serious hard on for Michonnes head and sword, Merle had to lie about both being lost.
those heads are trophies.
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head!
We got a little bit of that theme with Glenn manufacturing weapons from the bones of a walker, but it went unaddressed in the rest of the mission. I think a running, mobile gunfight would have worked best. Under fire, the Woodbury people could have sought cover, as people do, while the bolder, more reckless prison group could have outpaced them and escaped.
Teargas would have been much better, but it would have meant having the main cast wear masks for much of their screentime. Remember the SWAT armor from episode 102, “Guts”, which was used once and then discarded forever? Same problem. The show always chooses ease of filming over realism or storytelling.
I think there’s three ways to take that scene. 1. Michonne is more plot device than character, and keeping Andrea uninformed and on The Governor’s side serves the plot. 2. Michonne no longer wants Andrea on her side, and returned to Woodbury purely for revenge on The Governor. 3. Michonne believes that Andrea should trust her without the need for evidence or explanation.
I have to agree. Keeping Penny in and of itself is not evidence that The Governor is crazy or evil, I think it’s a pretty understandable response, and he’s taken due care to make sure she’s not a threat to anyone.
Perhaps; but not enough is known about zombie-ism to speculate as to what their inner life might be like. It might involve suffering, but it might not. And The Governor is in a unique position that Herschel wasn’t: he has a scientist of some kind working on zombie research, finding a cure or at least a treatment isn’t out of the realm of possibility.
Keeping his daughter around was an indicator of hope for the future, just as Woodbury itself is. Losing that hope forever would naturally harden someone.
Already addressed.
Women should use their sexuality to manipulate men into protecting and providing for them? That’s sexist.
True, but that was a rescue mission to free two captives that The Governor’s operative brought in. Woodbury has created its own threat.
Man shoots woman over Walking Dead argument: http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/cops-man-shoots-girlfriend-over-walking-dead-argument-1.4289872
Alright, which one of you was it?
She has a great ass, though.
Seems it was an arguement about the plausibility of the premise, not nitpicking the show itself:
So I think we’re in the clear.
I was surprised to learn that Laurie Holden was 42, I’ll say that. It’s hard to think of a reason The Governor was so attracted to her other than her being a main character, though.
Michonne’s reaction to Penny is influenced in part by the paricular concern she has for children. She took the formula to the prison, and was shown having a long and meaningful look at the baby through the bars of the door. She wasn’t offended by the Governor’s treatment of a walker, but was disappointed and shocked that it wasn’t a live child under the hood.
In that sense, if she had seen the child first rather than hearing zombie noises, I would forgive them having her miss obvious cues that something was wrong.
The sound effects for that scene were even messed up before then. She was initially drawn to that room by a noise that was clealy a thumping on a wooden door. Penny couldn’t have made the noise on her metal grate, so what was bumping the door?
Should, no. That would be the world a woman lives in though.
I firmly believe the only reason that women have any rights and safety is through the civilization laws we live under. That’s not even true in most of the world. And even in this country, these fun statistics.
Maybe it’s ok as a male to pretend that women would continue to be treated as people and not chattel if society collapsed, but I certainly don’t believe it.
Society doesn’t need to collapse, really. In our civilized military, woman are treated as chattel.
If I may steer things toward TWD, you are stating that Andrea’s relationships with Shane and The Governor, both being “alpha male” types, were deliberate choices on her part to ensure that she was protected, above all other concerns. And that other women should pursue this course in TWD’s world. Correct?
Do you feel that the show is conforming to your ideas about how women should use their sexuality in an apocalypse scenario? That is, are Maggie, Carol, Beth, the late Lori, and the other female characters acting as they should?
Can you elaborate on this? “Chattel” literally means “movable personal property”, so I’m not following you.