Yes, I’m a technical virgin. But no, you won’t be hearing anything about my private relations with my wife, should I marry. I think that Satan (the poster) was right when he said that some things should be left behind closed threads.
I will undergo therapy just as soon as the U.S. government stops the simple transfer of medical and psychological information from one agency to another as a pre-requisite for services. Case in point: I can’t get Vocational Rehab services without letting that agency seeing ALL of my medical records. Talk about your justified paranoia…
Talk about your lame excuse for not getting the help you probably need. I thought you were Mormon, not Christian Scientist? “Knowing what you’re getting into” and “being honest from the start” is all well and good and important, but my friend, ya need help.
Or not. Who am I, anyway? Good luck!
Esprix
Next time I want your opinion I’ll beat it out of you.
Polycarp said, “…that acceptance of oneself, as one is, is an important prerequisite to any successful relationship or to any inner peace…”
That is exactly what I mean. BTW, I haven’t heard back from my therapist friend. He is a kind and understanding person. I hope that you will be willing to talk with him (he abides by a therapist code and would never tell me anything about anyone else who is involved in therapy no matter the method he uses…i.e. email, phone, in person, etc nor would I want him to tell me and compromise those values.) eventhough I haven’t heard back from him yet.
I will be gone for a week, but bump it back up to the top and I will get back to you with that information.
Adam has changed much for the better. I respect you and missed you when you were gone Adam. I rarely agreed with you but your convictions and desire to find what you think is true are admirable. This is true with you as well Snark and orangecakes (although I typically agreed with you more often than Adam). I really wish you both luck on finding your happiness. As was mentioned before, please both of you go to a therapist and talk about your feelings beforehand.
HUGS!
Sqrl
Dear Fascist Bully Boys,
Give me more money, you bastards.
May the seed of your loins prove fruitful in the belly of your woman.
neil
Getting therapy isn’t the magical wand that some people think it is. I get more out of talking honestly through email with Rose than I would ever get out of a therapy session, and I know Rose will keep what I tell her in confidence. I can’t say that I know this of any therapist. The mental health agency I go to for services keeps its medical charts open to everyone involved in helping me. So basically, what I would tell my therapist would be known also by my psychiatrist and possibly by nurses and other employees.
I accept myself as a son of God. Period. I don’t need a “gay” identity to accept my true identity–in fact, identifying myself as “gay” and accepting that fact would harm me rather than help me, IMO.
::Someone in the background drops a book very loudly. Everyone looks up in time to see me trying to sneak in quietly.::
Um, sorry I’m late.
Rose, honey, I’m glad you and Bill decided to spill the beans. Best of luck, and I hope none of the things that people are bugging you about become real problems.
BTW, the reason I’m very anti-therapy is because I’ve already been betrayed once by a therapist, who put my private communications to her in my medical chart, which my psychiatrist then proceeded to discuss with me. I don’t think I will ever trust a therapist again.
With all due respect, Rose did not have years of training in psychology and/or psychiatry and is simply not equipped to be anything more to you than a friend or girlfriend. You don’t go to a mechanic when your nuclear reactor goes critical, no matter how much of a “nice guy” he might be.
My father has been in the hospital for almost 8 weeks now, and I’m thrilled that “everyone involved in helping him” knows what the others are doing. If you need the help of more than one health care specialist, they all should know what the others think to help you get better. Besides, who said anything about going to that particular health agency? You could always go to someone in private practice, which would severely limit the number of people who see your information.
I didn’t say anything about accepting or denying your being gay. I’m simply pointing out that by your own admission you’ve got big problems, and these are problems that could be ultimately detrimental to your own mental health and to your future relationships. I don’t give a rat’s patootie if you’re really gay or not - I just think you need to figure your own head out a little better with professional guidance before you go intertwining your life with someone else. (And, frankly, I’d suggest the same thing to orangecakes.)
Once again, as usual, I could be wrong. About a lot of things.
Esprix
Next time I want your opinion I’ll beat it out of you.
::Someone in the background drops a book very loudly. Everyone looks up in time to see me trying to sneak in quietly.::
Um, sorry I’m late.
Rose, honey, I’m glad you and Bill decided to spill the beans. Best of luck, and I hope none of the things that people are bugging you about become real problems.
With all due respect, Rose did not have years of training in psychology and/or psychiatry and is simply not equipped to be anything more to you than a friend or girlfriend. You don’t go to a mechanic when your nuclear reactor goes critical, no matter how much of a “nice guy” he might be.
My father has been in the hospital for almost 8 weeks now, and I’m thrilled that “everyone involved in helping him” knows what the others are doing. If you need the help of more than one health care specialist, they all should know what the others think to help you get better. Besides, who said anything about going to that particular health agency? You could always go to someone in private practice, which would severely limit the number of people who see your information.
I didn’t say anything about accepting or denying your being gay. I’m simply pointing out that by your own admission you’ve got big problems, and these are problems that could be ultimately detrimental to your own mental health and to your future relationships. I don’t give a rat’s patootie if you’re really gay or not - I just think you need to figure your own head out a little better with professional guidance before you go intertwining your life with someone else. (And, frankly, I’d suggest the same thing to orangecakes.)
Once again, as usual, I could be wrong. About a lot of things.
Esprix
Next time I want your opinion I’ll beat it out of you.
::Someone in the background drops a book very loudly. Everyone looks up in time to see me trying to sneak in quietly.::
Um, sorry I’m late.
Rose, honey, I’m glad you and Bill decided to spill the beans. Best of luck, and I hope none of the things that people are bugging you about become real problems.
With all due respect, Rose did not have years of training in psychology and/or psychiatry and is simply not equipped to be anything more to you than a friend or girlfriend. You don’t go to a mechanic when your nuclear reactor goes critical, no matter how much of a “nice guy” he might be.
My father has been in the hospital for almost 8 weeks now, and I’m thrilled that “everyone involved in helping him” knows what the others are doing. If you need the help of more than one health care specialist, they all should know what the others think to help you get better. Besides, who said anything about going to that particular health agency? You could always go to someone in private practice, which would severely limit the number of people who see your information.
I didn’t say anything about accepting or denying your being gay. I’m simply pointing out that by your own admission you’ve got big problems, and these are problems that could be ultimately detrimental to your own mental health and to your future relationships. I don’t give a rat’s patootie if you’re really gay or not - I just think you need to figure your own head out a little better with professional guidance before you go intertwining your life with someone else. (And, frankly, I’d suggest the same thing to orangecakes.)
Once again, as usual, I could be wrong. About a lot of things.
Esprix
Next time I want your opinion I’ll beat it out of you.
With all due respect, Rose did not have years of training in psychology and/or psychiatry and is simply not equipped to be anything more to you than a friend or girlfriend. You don’t go to a mechanic when your nuclear reactor goes critical, no matter how much of a “nice guy” he might be.
My father has been in the hospital for almost 8 weeks now, and I’m thrilled that “everyone involved in helping him” knows what the others are doing. If you need the help of more than one health care specialist, they all should know what the others think to help you get better. Besides, who said anything about going to that particular health agency? You could always go to someone in private practice, which would severely limit the number of people who see your information.
I didn’t say anything about accepting or denying your being gay. I’m simply pointing out that by your own admission you’ve got big problems, and these are problems that could be ultimately detrimental to your own mental health and to your future relationships. I don’t give a rat’s patootie if you’re really gay or not - I just think you need to figure your own head out a little better with professional guidance before you go intertwining your life with someone else. (And, frankly, I’d suggest the same thing to orangecakes.)
Once again, as usual, I could be wrong. About a lot of things.
Esprix
Next time I want your opinion I’ll beat it out of you.
With all due respect, Rose did not have years of training in psychology and/or psychiatry and is simply not equipped to be anything more to you than a friend or girlfriend. You don’t go to a mechanic when your nuclear reactor goes critical, no matter how much of a “nice guy” he might be.
My father has been in the hospital for almost 8 weeks now, and I’m thrilled that “everyone involved in helping him” knows what the others are doing. If you need the help of more than one health care specialist, they all should know what the others think to help you get better. Besides, who said anything about going to that particular health agency? You could always go to someone in private practice, which would severely limit the number of people who see your information.
I didn’t say anything about accepting or denying your being gay. I’m simply pointing out that by your own admission you’ve got big problems, and these are problems that could be ultimately detrimental to your own mental health and to your future relationships. I don’t give a rat’s patootie if you’re really gay or not - I just think you need to figure your own head out a little better with professional guidance before you go intertwining your life with someone else. (And, frankly, I’d suggest the same thing to orangecakes.)
Once again, as usual, I could be wrong. About a lot of things.
Esprix
Next time I want your opinion I’ll beat it out of you.
With all due respect, Rose did not have years of training in psychology and/or psychiatry and is simply not equipped to be anything more to you than a friend or girlfriend. You don’t go to a mechanic when your nuclear reactor goes critical, no matter how much of a “nice guy” he might be.
My father has been in the hospital for almost 8 weeks now, and I’m thrilled that “everyone involved in helping him” knows what the others are doing. If you need the help of more than one health care specialist, they all should know what the others think to help you get better. Besides, who said anything about going to that particular health agency? You could always go to someone in private practice, which would severely limit the number of people who see your information.
I didn’t say anything about accepting or denying your being gay. I’m simply pointing out that by your own admission you’ve got big problems, and these are problems that could be ultimately detrimental to your own mental health and to your future relationships. I don’t give a rat’s patootie if you’re really gay or not - I just think you need to figure your own head out a little better with professional guidance before you go intertwining your life with someone else. (And, frankly, I’d suggest the same thing to orangecakes.)
Once again, as usual, I could be wrong. About a lot of things.
Well, I know I won’t sway you, but there is no harm in talking. It is not necessarily true that the therapist will try to change you. My friend does probono (free) work over the internet and via phone calls and still maintains his therapist’s code of ethics.
I know your relationship is none of my business nor is it my business where either of you find your happiness. I don’t think happiness is necessarily defined to a sexual identity but being able to love yourself is. Find all the love you can in your life, go out and find more, and don’t hurt anyone along the way.
Anyway, I know I won’t sway either of you any way. Personally I care about orangecakes and don’t want to see her hurt…again. Anyway, I wish the two of you the best of luck in your current and future (either this one or any others) relationships (I have said this multiple times in this thread). Just, please {begs} please please please talk to a therapist before you decide to commit to eachother. Both of you, not just Snark.
HUGS!
Sqrl
Dear Fascist Bully Boys,
Give me more money, you bastards.
May the seed of your loins prove fruitful in the belly of your woman.
neil
With all due respect, Rose did not have years of training in psychology and/or psychiatry and is simply not equipped to be anything more to you than a friend or girlfriend. You don’t go to a mechanic when your nuclear reactor goes critical, no matter how much of a “nice guy” he might be.
My father has been in the hospital for almost 8 weeks now, and I’m thrilled that “everyone involved in helping him” knows what the others are doing. If you need the help of more than one health care specialist, they all should know what the others think to help you get better. Besides, who said anything about going to that particular health agency? You could always go to someone in private practice, which would severely limit the number of people who see your information.
I didn’t say anything about accepting or denying your being gay. I’m simply pointing out that by your own admission you’ve got big problems, and these are problems that could be ultimately detrimental to your own mental health and to your future relationships. I don’t give a rat’s patootie if you’re really gay or not - I just think you need to figure your own head out a little better with professional guidance before you go intertwining your life with someone else. (And, frankly, I’d suggest the same thing to orangecakes.)
Once again, as usual, I could be wrong. About a lot of things.
I was so devastated that I couldn’t even type. I don’t know what I’m going to do now. I mean, you even once proposed to me! I’ll probably just follow you around like before…
Yeah, but you’ve been married before, right? So no problem!
Good luck!
