Tips on living with a Significant Other

Jesus, what timing. My SO moved from 3 hours away (still in-state) to the town I was/am in - we moved into a house together. This was 6 weeks ago.

I’m definitely not used to living with someone. When I lived alone and I didn’t want to hang up my pants right away, I simply didn’t. It was MY mess, I lived there and to hell with it if I wanted it to wait 3-4 hours or even a day to do dishes.

Now flash forward to the present. I don’t want to hang up my pants so I toss them on the bed. Or,…I would except my girlfriend has her tossed on there already. And you know what? I got mad! I thought, “MAN, why doesn’t she hang up her pants?” D’oh! I wasn’t even aware that I had these weird habits until I saw her doing them and then it ticked me off. Sheesh, Tibs. So the hardest part for me has been that when I feel like I want things clean, she may be in a laid back mode - it hasn’t been vice versa yet. I want to do the dishes right after we eat - she wants to watch a movie and do them in the morning. I can NOT relax before bed with the house like this so sometimes I end up doing them on my own - do you hear the resentment building??

We’re definitely trying to figure out how it works and I think part of the problem is that she doesn’t like having some groundrules. I think they would help a lot - she thinks that means we have issues. Well, duh! Heh. ANYWAY…I guess I’m not offering much advice as much as chiming in with needing the two cents from everyone else. YOU ARE NOT ALONE. :smiley:

Tibs.

Tibs-
FWIW, I don’t think having mutually acceptable ground rules means that you have issues.
I think that not having ground rules, even though they would make your relationship smoother, because she thinks for some reason that they mean that you have issues, means you have even more issues…
or something like that.
:slight_smile:

Let it go. This does not mean give in everytime you disagree, but don’t try to control all of the little stuff. It’s part of the compromise aspect everyone keeps mentioning. So your idea of tidying up the house includes dusting every appliance, and his isn’t. He thinks that he should store peanut butter in the fridge, and you think that it should go in the pantry. He won’t stop wearing his shoes in the house, and won’t hang up his jacket. You don’t feel right unless the toilet paper is hung just the right way. Both of you should try to compromise enough to make the other one comfortable, but when it gets right down to it, let it go. How important is it? Is it worth World War III? What’s important in the relationship? Did you choose him because he’s a great conversationalist, has a great sense of humour, and is the only person on Earth who can get along with your parents? Is the peanut butter (or insert your own issue here) issue worth getting upset about? And don’t just say that you’ll let it go, and then grumble internally 24/7. Just let it go.

Don’t take him for granted, and hopefully, he won’t take you for granted. Over time, it’s so easy to forget why you fell in love in the first place. ESPECIALLY if you have kids! Try to look at him as if you’re seeing him for the first time, no matter how long you’ve been together.

Date. It’s easy to stop when you’re living together. You spend so much time together doing the everyday mundane things in life that dating may seem redundant, but trust me, it will be good for you. A lot of couples I know stop going out with each other, and at some point, they can’t figure out why their relationship has lost it’s zing. They’re always talking to their SO. Sure, it’s about bills, groceries, kids, and cleaning, but they’re talking! Not that same. Take each other out.

Communicate. Something bothers you? Don’t hold it in until you’re so mad you could throw him across the room. If you don’t say something immediately, the grudge will just get bigger and bigger. You don’t want your SO to be completely mystified as to why you’re acting as though you’re mad, but he/she has no idea why, and then when you finally do say something, your anger is out of proportion to the transgression. Your SO is not a mind reader. If it’s a repeat incident, you’ve talked about it regularly and it’s fairly minor, then see point #1, and let it go.

Finances. Unless you two are the one in a thousand or one in a million that totally agrees on every single purchase, have separate bank accounts. I pay these bills, you pay those bills. What’s left over is up to the individual to use as he or she sees fit. Once you’ve done so, don’t even bother criticizing the way the other spends money. I paid my portion of the bills, I can spend the rest of my money on (shoes, clothing, art, books, the complete collection of Red Dwarf on DVD). You paid your portion of the bills, go ahead and spend money on (your sixth table saw, comic books, overpriced running shoes, a five year subscription to Sports Illustrated). You may feel that all of your purchases were justified (hey, I bought the vacuum cleaner, and you bought the Star Trek collectibles), but let it go. Split on household items, or take turns purchasing them. You want to save money together? Open a third bank account that requires both signatures for a withdrawl. Treat is as a bill, which means pay into it before you spend money on trivial stuff. Then don’t even look at what the other person is buying. Just make sure that you’re both paying bills first, or WW III will definitely erupt.

lolagranola, that dating idea is great. Jim and I occasionally have a date night out, and it’s just as wonderful being out with him on a date now as it was when we started dating over two years ago. I dress up a little, he puts on dress pants and shaves, we go someplace that doesn’t ask us if we want fries with that, and we just have a really good time together.

Another idea to keep things interesting is to take regular walks together as well. When you’re out walking together, you have no distractions, no phone ringing (if the cell is turned off), no kids begging for attention, just the two of you stretching your legs and talking. I’ve found that this is a great way to discuss things that might otherwise get a little heated.

I’ll second those who highlight “communication,” but I’ll put it a little differently.

The key, I think, is to establish from the outset that there is an open line of communication. The examples above where little annoyances turn into huge problems because they go unmentioned the first few times are illustrative. As you and your SO begin trying to work out a new behavioral paradigm – and it is a new paradigm, for both of you – it needs to be clear from the beginning, understood by both parties, that you are going to run into things that bug one another. This is, in short, inevitable and unavoidable.

So, you should agree from the beginning that both of you have the freedom to bring these issues up, right away. As part of this agreement, make certain to stress that none of this should be viewed as criticism, or as personal attack. You’re simply expressing your viewpoint, whether it has a basis in real concern — e.g., “I’m unhappy when the mustard is left on the kitchen counter overnight,” which is a health hazard — or if it’s simply an idiosyncratic preference — e.g., “The towels in the bathroom closet must be folded lengthwise into thirds, not in half,” which couldn’t possibly have any actual effect on anything and will piss off the SO if it’s phrased as an irrational demand.

The whole point of this is to keep the lines of communication open at all times. If you both understand that you’re simply expressing a need, and the desire to work out a solution, then things can proceed happily. If you don’t talk about these little things, they’ll build up. For example: My father divorced his second wife because, rather than screwing the cap back on the toothpaste tube, she’d squeeze out a little dollop at the end and mash the cap onto it. That’s what he says, anyway. Obviously it’s not true, but it’s what was eventually pissing him off the most and serving as a twice-daily irritant.

Oh, and one more thing: If you find yourself getting into regular arguments, you should ask yourself — is it more important that you maintain your relationship, or that you be “right”? I give in on a lot of disagreements where I know I have the factual position, simply because the negative feeling, the temporary bruise to my ego about being “wrong,” takes a distant second behind all of the positive feelings I get from being in a wonderful relationship with a beautiful woman who loves me unconditionally.

Two commodes. No, really. Then it doesn’t matter if the seat’s up or down.

One thing I’ve learned is that, when it comes to money, open communication is essential. It should be understood by both parties when household bills (utilities, rent, car) are due, and how much is being spent on each. Both parties should discuss who pays what when, and methods of payment should be consistent. I’ve paid a bill, then my ex paid it again because he didn’t know it had already been paid. Fine for the phone, but sucks when it’s a one-time bill. If only one of us had been paying bills, and the method of payment had been consistent, then we wouldn’t have double-paid for the month.

What my parents do is, household money (my dad’s paycheck, rents, etc.) goes into their joint accounts. My dad keeps a separate checking account for his own use that he deposits his consulting fees into. He’s got his own money, Mom’s got her money, and the bills are covered. And of course, my money is kept completely separate in my own accounts, and it’s mine to spend as I choose. Likely, Airman and I will try something like that.

Robin

Toilet seat down. All the time, except when occupied.

Why?

  1. Pets. Yeah, yeah we all have seen those funniest home videos of the dog drinking in the toilet. It’s even a TV commercial. Please consider your pet(s). BTW, cats and other pets will drink out of a toilet, too. Is your ego/personal choice more important than your pet’s life?

  2. Self-respect.

  3. Respect for others.

  4. Ever have to recover that ring/watch/memento that slides off the counter down the toilet?

  5. Children. When a small child is just learning to walk, everything is a toy, as well as potential death trap. Anyone can drown in a toilet, but small children are more vulnerable. Is your ego/personal choice more important than a child’s life?

  6. If you’re a male, I hope your SO/wife/girlfriend/etc. makes sure you clean the toilet and floor the morning after the night before, preferably after a hot night and very warm morning to allow the residue to ferment.

  7. My mother had a rule in her bathroom that everyone must sit, regardless of male or female, number one or number two. If you didn’t like the rule, you either didn’t go or had to use the other bathroom … down there. No exceptions. A failure to abide by her rule meant you had to clean the toilet, floor and surrounding area with bare hands and a toothbrush.

  8. With my mother’s rule, I chose to sit more often than not. The extra time is good for thinking, settling down, allowing others to cool down, etc. It’s also cleaner. My male ego is quite strong and healthy. My bathroom is always clean, too.

  9. If you’re a male and you insist keeping the seat up is “just a male thing,” you’re incorrect. It’s really a neanderthal male thing. Get real. Get over it. Deal with it. Grow up. Compromise. Let her have it her way - the seat down.

All of the advice about communication is right on and critical - I will take it one step further:

At the beginning of any discussion with your SO about issues you need to work out, say (and mean it):

“This relationship is the most important one in my life and its long-term success is the highest priority to me - within that context, I want to discuss…”

In other words, always do a gut-check, first with yourself, then explicitly with your SO, to remind yourself about what’s at stake here. Granted, the long-term success of the relationship may only be one of your highest priorities, along with personal health/survival, your kids’ lives, etc…but you get the point. Reminding yourself and your spouse that this relationship is a bigtime issue is often enough to put gripes into perspective and give both of you a chance to either ignore it or reach a compromise more easily…

There is nothing hard about living with Lola, she is an absolute angel except for that first couple of hours in the morning where the wisest thing for me to do is hand her a coffee and back away slowly until she’s awake and chipper. You learn this things like this over time and despite my urge to jump her bones every morning I have learned it’s usually a bad idea.

After seven years one should be accustomed to their partners daily rythyms and Lola is definately not a morning person. Since I have become the designated morning person I am not really at my best in the evening but I also realise that by the time I get home (usually 9:30pm) Lola has put in a full day with the house and the kids and needs someone to give her a break.

Dating and making time for each other is really important, (dating other people is not). I think that after I get the girls off to the sitter’s I’ll take the woman out for lunch and maybe we can browse Office Depot if there’s time. Other people might have other ideas of the perfect date but this is one of our favourite things to do, eating and then shop for pens and paper. It would be nice to go out in the evening but during the week this is nearly impossible unless we abandon the children. Having this time for us to just go out and enjoy being a couple is really important, if we don’t get it we both get pretty cranky. We really like being together and are best friends.

We’re committed to each other and seeing this relationship grow, this helps us deal with all the stuff that life throws our way. You may have noticed that life never seems to tire and is always finding things to throw and we keep finding ways to handle whatever those things are. The tools we use are; communication, trust, respect, and humour. You really need to have a sense of humour.

It is a slightly difficult question because I don’t know you or your S.O. You are as individual as Lola and myself and will have to figure out how how two disimilar people can best manage to live together happily. It takes time and a great deal of hard work but the payoff of is well worth it.

Thanks, y’all. This is really great advice and I definitely appreciate it. We’re good about talking through things, so I feel optimistic that we can work through rough patches. It’s good to hear from other people that have done so successfully.

Oddly, the toilet seat issue doesn’t bug me at all, except that the cats seem to view the commode as an extra water dish.

Tiburon, it’s really nice to know that I’m not the only one making this adjustment right now. Good luck!

Thanks for the good luck wishes - my best to you, too!

I took much of what was said to heart. Yesterday, I called my girlfriend and asked her out to dinner. We ate a great meal and had a great evening, talking and laughing and yadda yadda yadda.

[George] Would someone ‘yadda yadda yadda’ sex??? [/George]
[Elaine] I’ve yadda yadda yadda’d sex. [/Elaine]

Tibs.

Oh really? And here I was thinking that it was because we both held firm beliefs and had no way of proving the other person wrong (which is sometimes much more important than simply being right).

And then there’s that. Being with the person you love is great.

As far as living together, I found it useful to distinguish between ‘roommate’ issues - things that come up when you live with another person regardless of who they are, and ‘relationship’ issues - things that come up because you love this person and need to settle so they won’t sabotage your ability to be with that person forever.

Toilet seats and towel folding are in the first category, communication and how to talk about problems fall in the second.

Good luck!