To the lady who called me a homophobic fucktard the other day

Not dwarves.

Homophobic Lesbian Hobbits.

Regards,
Shodan

Brain Wreck “child” hardly refers to a 20 year old woman in any accurate sense of the word.

Lord Ashtar-it’s not your fault the rules are stupid, you did your job, the older woman (she was clearly no lady!) was in the wrong.

Everyone should just decide one age (I go for 16) where you are legally of age where you can give informed consent and can do all the stuff we decide adults should be able to do if they so choose.

e.g.
have sex with a consenting person of your choice
purchase and drink alcohol
smoke tobacco
join the army
pay taxes
get married
consent to medical treatment
buy lottery tickets
drive a car

Too many of problems are caused by people not taking personal responsibility for their actions. Perhaps insisting they shoulder more responsibility at an earlier age would help. It would certainly end the minefield of all the different ages for doing different things in different jurisdictions.

No, it’s right but irrelevant. The Ring-bearer behaved as if her marriage was a legal fact. It wasn’t. Lord Ashtar would have been accurate, albeit inflammatory, had he responded to “She’s my wife!” with “No, she isn’t.”

a) Band Name!
b) Say thank you to me for the feed line :smiley:

A piece of paper with a government’s stamp of approval isn’t what makes you married. I believe her when she said they were married. But even if the government did say they were married, it still wouldn’t be good enough to get the under 21 past me and into the bar. Like I said before, if it was a 44 year old man with a 20 year old woman or a 44 year old woman with a 20 year old man, I still wouldn’t have let them in.

Thank you for the feed line.

Make it “Homophobic Lesbian Hobbits in Spandex”, and you got yourself a winner.

Regards,
Shodan

Understood. I was just advancing the position that, had the question of whether they were married or not been relevant, it is indeed that stamped piece of paper that counts, and not your personal position, however enlightened. More, the fucktard-caller would have known this perfectly well. Were it a club for married couples and a club rule - not the law of the land - that needed to be taken into account, that’d possibly be another matter; but even then, your own views on the validity of gay marriage would be neither here nor there, and she would still know that.

Oh yes, and I too was skeeved out by the notion that the older partner in the marriage was de facto the guardian of the younger. I think there would be riots in the street if there was any suggestion that a 44yo man was the legal guardian of his 20yo wife - especially if this applied whether she wanted him to be or not.

At that point, I think you got yourself a website.

Daniel

And in this case it would actually be hilarity, as penis would most definitely not ensue.

Sez you. I know of at least one lesbian couple on the Dope where penis has ensued.

Yup, with about a hundred links to slashfic.

Regards,
Shodan

I do believe you mean throbbits (pretty work safe).

Nope. In fact, this will probably be one of the last states to grant legal status to same-sex unions, let alone recognize them as legal marriages. IIRC, earlier this year, the State House tried to pass a law to not recognize any kind of non-traditional marriage.

I’m kind of interested in what the 20-year-old wife did when the 44-year-old wife said she was her legal guardian. Did she just stand there with her thumb up her ass or what? :dubious:

I was 20 when I married my husband, who is only 7 years older than I am. Had he ever said that he was my “legal guardian” he would have, at the very least, limped away with some bruises and probably would have needed medical attention.

And, no, the 20-year-old is not her wife. I understand and hold dearly in my heart the idea that a marriage certificate isn’t what makes a marriage a marriage, but it is what makes a marriage legal. What makes a marriage a marriage (IMHO) is love, mutual respect, and, hopefully, (and in my case…yay for me!) incredible mind-blowing sex on a regular basis.

I’m all for legalizing same-sex marriages. Gays and lesbians should have all the benefits and protection that the law allows like my husband I do do. You know, the right to pay higher taxes, the right to to hire a divorce lawyer if things go bad, the right to be sued for spousal support, the right to have sleepless nights because you think your soon-to-be ex-husband/wife is about to take everything you’ve ever worked for in your life.

For real though, gays and lesbians should be able to have their partners on their health insurance (if they’re lucky enough to have health insurance through work), the right to take time off for family leave if they’re lucky enough to have or adopt a child, and the *absolute * right to introduce their husband or wife as their husband or wife without fear of persecution or prosectution.

Sorry, that’s not really an issue in regards to this thread, because Lord Ashtar wouldn’t have been able to let them in even if they had been a May-December man and a woman instead of May-December women. I just had to put my two cents in, I do that sometimes.

Pretty much. She just stood there as the whole conversation happened, then followed her wife out the door. She never said a word.

I knew it was only a matter of minutes. Forgive me my wide brush. :wink:

Was it a real penis or was it battery powered?

I’m saying, right.

Aww… *pats chatelaine on the tush…

…then goes off to apply Dettol to the bleeding stump where his hand used to be. :smiley:

Flesh and blood, chromosomally granted, and fully functional. The possessor was (don’t know about “is”, and it’s not my business) in the process of transgendering, self-identified as female (and was accepted as such by her partner) but still possessed masculine genitals. And I doubt this is a unique situation.

Still, bearing in mind chatelaine’s original comment, I agree that this was the smart way to bet. :stuck_out_tongue:

IANAL either, but I don’t think this is true, at least for Texas. See section 106.04 at this site and #6 and 7 from the related FAQ.

As a personal anecdote, I have a friend who married a 20 year old and most bars or restaurants in the area had no problem with letting her drink when she was with him.

Oh, hardly! Just don’t feel emasculated when I return the favour. :smiley:

Oh now, psh, that’s hardly penis ensuing. That’s more… penis just hanging out, getting in the way, and freeloading. :stuck_out_tongue: