Yes, Lord Ashtar, there are indeed homosexual people who have this freaky sense of entitlement combined with a persecution complex. They’ll play the gay card whenever it suits them, trying to magnify petty inconveniences and social frustrations into civil rights issues. It’s nothing more than a power play, a destructive and selfish attempt to take advantage of Liberal Guilt. They’re petulant children; they disrespect the real civil rights issues and struggles that decent people are going through just to get by and live happy lives, all just so they can get their way. And try to leave you questioning whether you are a “homophobe” (or a “racist” or “sexist” or “misogynist” or whatever else).
In Wiscoonsin it is legal for a minor (although it may be restricted to 18 and older) to drink as long as their parent or legal guardian is present. Wisconsin also allows a minor to drink with their spouse of legal age.
Just as an aside, she definitely could have been indicating she was her mother by pointing to the ring. My mom has a ring with my and my sister’s birthstones on it, and it looks more like a wedding ring than her actual wedding ring does. They’re quite popular around here and women are as prone to show you their ‘motherhood’ rings, as they are to whipping out their wallet to show you pictures of their kids.
Given his account, and that it’s possible **Lord Ashtar’s ** jewelry knowledge is perhaps a bit rusty, I’ll go out on a limb and say it probably wasn’t what he was thinking. However, it would have been the first thing I thought of if that ring of hers didn’t have a big-ass pink triangle on it. Then I’d have thought they were friends and been a bit confused. Lesbian life partners would be the last thing to occur to me, simply because the marriage wouldn’t have made her a guardian, and the first two relationships are much more common, in my area at least. So I’d have probably been called a fucktard as well. Which is why I’m only a bouncer for tea rooms. You hardly ever get called a fucktard in a tea room.
It must have been your vast reservoirs of bullshit topped off with bitterness and the inability to get over stuff that blinded you. Perhaps a course of go fuck yourself would help.
Has everyone forgotten that I specifically said that I didn’t think Lord Ashtar was being homophobic here? And that Lord Ashtaragreed that he could have handled the questioning better? I guess so.
Not at all. I was responding specifically to what you said to me. You know, about never having had my marriage disrespected. Which was a rather bullshit way of trying to tell me I don’t know what it’s like.
Whether LA could have phrased it better or not, that woman was looking to be offended. Just like you.
Since what this thread needs more than anything else is more nitpicking, I will point out that their marriage very well may have been a legal fact - all it would’ve required is a quick trip to Canada. The marriage may BE a legal fact… even if not in Virginia.
I was at a wedding rehersal and when the 5 yr old ring bearer came down the aisle, he would stop and turn to people on either side of the aisle and say, “ROWR!!”
“ROWR!!!”
His mother (confused) asked him why he was doing that.
Not forgotten, but irrelevant. So what if Lord Ashtar agreed with you? It doesn’t make you any less of a predictable, chirping twit. And he’d be wrong to agree with you, because the woman, like you, was being a belligerent ass, looking to blame everyone else for all kinds of petty grievances without showing any responsibility to behave like an adult herself.
You talk about how what LA said was a “shitty thing to do.” Uh, yeah. I’m not the first person to point out that saying you’re the “legal guardian” of your spouse is at best confusing, at worst really skeevy and creepy. Only an asshole looking to pick a fight would try to turn that into an accusation of homophobia and “disrespecting the marriage,” which of course is why you proceeded to do exactly that all through the thread. Playing the gay card to cover up your own faults (like sneaking an underage person into a bar and being a bitch about it) is what’s a shitty thing to do.
And I’m curious what exactly it is I’m unable to “get over” and how that makes me “bitter,” but that can wait. Once you’ve learned to grow up and handle people disagreeing with you without having to accuse them of insensitivity and homophobia, or just plain cussing like a moron at them, then maybe you can come back and explain it.
Isn’t it 19 in Hawaii and a few other states? It was 19 here in Ak up until sometime in the early 80s.
And here, a spouse can bring an underaged spuse into a bar as can parents and “responsible adults”. In theory they’re supposed to have a marriage cert. And from what I understand from the bar owners I’ve taught dance classes for, it’s allowed provided that it is at a bar sponsered function such as a dance class or "Koots’ Free Movie Sundays, or some such.
And that the bar generally has the underaged person leave before “prime time hour” which is at 9, or sometimes 10 depending upon the bar.
I instantly pictured a very large man grabbing some little white-haired old lady by the scruff of the neck and giving her a boot to the ass as he fired her out the door, “Lady, you’ve had a little too much Orange Pekoe. Go home and sleep it off!”.
Emasculated? Not me. But steady on with this touching men on the derriere, hon, or you might get Stuck Like That[sup]TM[/sup]
And being made enthusiastic use of IIRC, the woman without the penis thinking herself very lucky to find a woman with one. Why… no, I’m just not gonna go there, lest my head explode.
Which is fine and dandy if you’re not trying to claim legal prerogatives in Virginia. In Pago Pago it may be cool for me to shack up with a sheep * but if I come back to dear old Blighty and try to pass off Flossie as my ever-loving wife, at best I’ll get a few funny looks **.
Although probably not.
** And quite frankly I get enough of those, thankyouverymuch
Um, if you’re going to lie, you mightnot want to lie in the thread you’re lying about. It pretty much makes ir way to easy for the lie to be exposed. I never once agreed with the homophobia accusation. What I said was that asking the older woman if the younger woman was her daughter, when he already knew what she was indicating by pointing to her wedding ring, was shitty. Everyone coming in here tossing off comments like “oh, gee, I’d have been confused” or “gosh, I know people who wear birthstone rings, maybe that was it” are conveniently forgetting that Ashtar said in his OP that he was pretty confident in what she was indicating at the time she did it. It makes very little difference what you or I or any other random person on the street would have thought she was indicating. What matters is what the OP thought she was indicating, and he made it clear that he thought she was indicating that the two were spouses.
As for your incessant whiny bleats that I’m turning this into an accusation of homophobia, well, I’ve already pointed out that was a fucking lie.
Nope. Hawaii changed around the same time. I gather states were told to raise the drinking age to 21 or lose Federal highway funding. An old boyfriend of mine was 19 or 20 when they did this, so he went from being allowed to drink alcohol legally to not being allowed to do so. :rolleyes: Don’t get me started on official American attitudes towards alcohol – that’s a whole 'nother Pit thread!
I will point out that their marriage very well may have been a legal fact - all it would’ve required is a quick trip to Canada. The marriage may BE a legal fact… even if not in Virginia.