Trolls R Us redux [Now the argument clinic]

See, this is why I don’t think Figgy is Carnalk, Carnalk was never such an attention seeker. But, I could be wrong of course.

Why is it attention seeking to bag on someone in this thread? Everyone is doing it.

Seriously? You don’t see you posting style as attention seeking? Strange.

It’s one of the many inconsistencies of the board. Of course, it won’t be explainable but that’s a feature not a bug.

I really don’t see what I’m doing differently than what naita has said to me in the past and what they’re saying to Hajario in this thread. What is so unassuming about naita’s style, exactly?

It isn’t this thread that makes me think you attention seeking, it is your overall posting everywhere. Actually I just barely recognize naita but in a short time you’ve made yourself very well known to the regulars of the board.

I do prefer to talk when I think an important minority position is being poorly put forward. I generally only pipe up for majority opinion when I think an important aspect is being missed, which happens a lot less often. I’m not a contrarian, I merely find being the tenth guy to agree very boring.

Interesting self-assessment.

How you actually come across to others is as a bit of an asshole who frequently seeks attention.

You may want to have a look at how your words are actually being perceived and if your intentions are coming across clearly in the written format. Probably you’re much better at this in person.

Well, I’m not pretending that I’m not often antagonistic. Usually I guess I feel like I’m pushing back against a too self satisfied attitude when I do that.

You’re the guy I often disagree with but that IMO doesn’t make you a troll. It just makes you the guy I often disagree with. My 2c.

I do not agree. They did the very thing that the thread was complaining about. I can maybe see that the first one was just losing their cool, as it was just one word, “histrionics.” But when they came back and pulled the “you don’t really want it” bullshit, that was too on the nose. That’s literally the bullshit the OP was decrying.

If someone makes a thread about hating something, and everyone agrees it’s bad, and you unironically do that very thing more than once, it’s hard for me to accept that isn’t trolling–at least by the standards we use here, where trolls can still be sincere.

And, again, they referred to the poster as having PTSD. That’s a mental illness. Either they actually think they have that illness, and were being a shithole to them for it, or they were using the accusation as an insult.

Neither of those is okay, and pretending that it can happen just because you’re angry is utter, complete bullshit. It’s the type of shit that got Shodan recognized as trolling another poster.

You do NOT ever use PTSD or any other mental illness in a mocking manner around me. I’ve ended friendships over that nonsense.

The reference to shodan is not true. Shodan got dinged because of inconsistency and the inability of folks to read. And if hajario is not an ettin I’m pretty sure he’s a singular entity.

Nah, Shodan got a pass on years of intermittent trolling because of inconsistency. When the anti-troll enforcement tightened up, Shodan unsurprisingly hit the filter.

That’s revisionist history.

It’s a historical fact that Shodan had mod warnings for trolling before his banning, and that several posters had complained about the trollishness of his behavior for a long time.

Reasonable people can have different opinions on what constitutes banworthy levels of trollishness, but an opinion doesn’t become “revisionist history” just because it differs from yours.

FigNorton sez:

That’s vaguely reminiscent of the way Starving Artist described his posting style back when he was new. You know, the whole I give back what I get thing.

That said, I want to be crystal clear that I do NOT suspect FigNorton of being a reboot of Starving Artist.

It’s revisionist history to deny that he got dinged with a double standard because ‘reasons’.

Not likely. Unless Starving Artist suddenly got about 20 times smarter.

As I said, just because you don’t like an opinion that differs from your own doesn’t mean that the other opinion is “revisionist history”.

Whether Shodan’s banning was fair is a matter of opinion, not of demonstrable historical fact. You certainly haven’t produced any facts to support your own opinion on the subject, just whines that people who disagree with you are “revisionist”.

Seriously. We shall not look upon his like again, let us devoutly hope.

Right…

The sticky on top of this forum is evidence to the contrary. Shodan’s banning was the result of a series of farcical events.