nm, fuckin waste of time
I’ll assume since the notification popped up you’re addressing me,
That those two things that are not exactly connected will not be lost on those actually following this tempest in a teapot.
Fucking post the slander or admit you’re a fucking liar and slanderer yourself.
What are you babbling about?
That’s what I thought, and keep your fucking mouth shut.
You thought? That’s not slander but it’s equally untrue.
OK, that was good. 
Fortunately, I can’t see octopus’ posts so I can’t be derailed by whatever whining he’s posting this time. So I’ll just interject with a new rule proposal: when someone is banned, any previous warnings for people calling out the banned poster’s behavior should be rescinded.
Not that I have any selfish reasons…
I think you really want this board to be a moderate place that embraces all perspectives and ideologies equally, including the really repugnant ones, and it may once have been that, but it is clearly not that now. This board is overwhelmingly filled with liberal intellectuals who do not tolerate bigotry toward historically oppressed groups. That is why Slacker faced mild ostracism and it is the true reason he was banned. I get the impression you want people to get just as upset about people (for example) dumping on Trump supporters, and it’s not going to happen. Trump supporters share a chosen ideology rather than an immutable identity, but more importantly, they don’t belong to a historically oppressed group. You perceive this as a double standard, but the community consensus is that some prejudices are worse than others.
I don’t know if this is a difference you recognize or not, but regardless of your personal feelings about it, it’s not going to change. This place doesn’t exist to be an unbiased forum for the free exchange of all ideas. It’s a small, mostly homogeneous community of like minded people who are tired of bigoted bullshit.
Not a very accurate description. Religion is as much of a choice as an ideology is. We have free will do we not? The other issue I take exception to is that the purpose of this forum is to be a small, mostly homogeneous community. A place shouldn’t actively seek to be a hive when the place was never intended to be a hive. There is very little value to intellectual orthodoxy and it’s cowardly as well.
Concerning, double standards? Regardless of the justification for them it’s not the small, homogeneous community’s forum.
It’s not cowardice or any kind of problem at all for a community to eschew bigotry. That’s how you know it’s a good community.
And no, I don’t agree religion is a choice, but that’s a discussion for another time.
It’s cowardice to seek only views that you already hold. It’s appalling to disingenuously silence views that don’t fit an orthodoxy. If one is not religious then holding the view that religion is harmful and it’s adherents cause harm is as valid of a view as the view that adherents to a particular ideology cause harm.
The problem is, out of the concern for PCness, religion gets a pass far too often for abhorrent views and practices. Which would be fine if ALL religions were accorded the same deference. But they aren’t.
Regardless, it’s a ridiculous turn of events but sadly enough I’ve seen more ridiculous around here to not be surprised.
One more to ignore.
What??? See, I thought he was banned because he was trolling.
This ignores that many already debunked a lot to themselves before or while coming to this site.
Not all ideologies are the same. That is just dumb.
Not really, personally there was a lot from my original religion that I also debunked to myself.
Well, what you miss is that the dearly departed was not only a grammar Nazi, but his concern trolling was either coming from an old fashion Dixiecrat that justified his scientific racism and bigotry, and usually failed to identify what was a good source. I will never forget how he claimed to be so smart only to find how gullible he was with deniers/lukewarmers of climate change. And when I pointed to a podcast (his preferred way to gain knowledge) from experts that debunked what Charles Murray and his favorite podcaster was spewing, he just deftly ignore it.
Of course not all ideologies or religions are the same. I’m not sure anyone made that assertion. What is different is that odious aspects of certain sets of beliefs are protected and odious aspects and even not so odious aspects of other sets of beliefs are not. A warped mirror of a fragile student’s university safe space is not something to strive towards.
At one point discussions of difficult topics were possible to have here. Now it’s basically turned into a giant orange-man-bad echo chamber. That’s not to say there isn’t still valuable information and points of view that some folks take the effort to create. But it’s becoming more rare. How is that healthy?
When the latest is that an underling of Barr quits in disgust and that Giuliani is getting deeper into colluding with Russians and his daughter pleads to vote for Biden, (and this is without mentioning that Trump had the bad qualities of the Slacker x100) that is not fine. You are missing that debunkers by trade would naturally had found Trump to be an ignorant git and found that most Republicans would show to be the same.
Maybe you don’t know, but when I lurked for a time I thought this was a bit right wing, because a lot of criticism was directed at president Clinton then. But when Bush the lesser fell for the WMD ruse, it was clear to me and many others that the Republicans had started the road to see un-curiosity and gullibility as virtues.
THAT, is not healthy for a nation.
Oh, happy day!
I am in no way a fan of the recently-departed but I’m not entirely on board with the “trolling” claim in the ATMB thread. But he’s definitely a bigoted asshole and his recent weird insistence on the “Ultra-Orthodox Jews are all bad and do bad things” approach confirms it.
Sometimes it’s hard to tell whether someone is being deliberately provocative or just cluelessly obnoxious.
Slack’s repeated insistence that he viewed posting as some kind of textual rap-battle where he takes on all-comers (and apparently defeats them with ease - must be referring to some other board) would tend to indicate the former.
I don’t feel bad about my actions. I kept trying to get him to see the problem. I kept trying to get him to see that everyone being upset at him all the time wasn’t a fluke. I explained how, even if he was sure he was right, that there was a time to back off.
At every attempt, he treated me like I was being stupid, but I was doing my best to help. I could tell he was upset being here, and I kept trying to get him to see what he could change to be less upset here. But it was more interesting to him to get back at people.
And, yes, I kept trying to get him to understand his bigotry and change. He kept acting like he wanted to, saying he was in line with feminists and anti-racists. But he would not disavow anything horrible he’d previously said.
I was going to say that he was probably the best of a bad lot, but I don’t think that’s quite right. I do think he seemed the one most capable of changing, though. And, unlike the others, he sometimes had the germ of a good idea, instead of being here to “pwn the libs.”
Not going to weigh in on how valid his banning is. I kinda feel like @SpiceWeasel there. Though, in my case, it’s that there’s too much shitty going on in my world right now for me to get all upset over someone who had been pushing and pushing for years, even if it turns out the last straw wasn’t really valid. If it weren’t this, it would be something else.