True Blood 11/9/08 - OPEN SPOILERS

I went back ten days and didn’t see the original thread, so maybe it’s time for a new one. Two episodes left.

I’d like the series a lot better if I could reconcile the really dark stuff (like Bill being forced to make a vampire) with the contrived conflicts, particularly Tara and Sam. Sometimes these people act like teenagers, or like they learned about relationships from daytime soaps. God, but they’re annoying. Bill’s the only one who acts his age (more or less).

I wasn’t at all impressed with the vampire court. It was just too trashy.

Lafayette totally confused me tonight. Why did he go after Jason? What did he think Jason did? If he suspected Jason had something to do with his friend’s disappearance, why didn’t he search Jason’s place? Or accuse him? What is Lafayette worried about? I’d watch again, but this episode was so disappointing, I’d rather not.

Lafayette suspects Jason, because Lafayette went to Eddie The Vampire’s house, and he wasn’t there (and Lafayette knows Eddie is a homebody, and also, when he was at the house, the door was left open and there were signs of a struggle). Lafayette knows that Jason is about as smart as a box full of hair and desperate for a source for V now that Lafayette has cut him off.

Lafayette clearly has a very strong sense of self-preservation and even if he knew for sure that Jason had kidnapped Eddie, he’s going to clear a wide path–the Vampires don’t seem to take very kindly to humans who drain vampires and sell their blood, and Lafayette knows this (he’s been toying with them, along with a huge dose of street smarts). He is going to stay clear from the situation because he’s not exactly in the mood to wake up dead.

Oh, and my husband and I get a kick out of seeing places we know show up as filming locations for this series. Fangtasia is actually Alex’s Bar in Long Beach and the pharmacy from tonight’s episode is the DeSoto Pharmacy in Canoga Park, only a few minutes away from where I work.

I think the real question here is why is Sookie being such a sanctimonious twat to poor Sam? He’s one of the few people in that town who has always accepted her just as she is, and he would roll naked across hot coals covered in broken glass to help her out. The initial shock and pissiness I can understand (she’s had a hell of a few weeks), but the continued sulking and snarking is just way overboard. If only she’d have pooched out her lower lip, she’d have been the perfect picture of the world’s biggest five year old.

Is she jealous? She doesn’t want Sam, but she doesn’t want anybody else to have him either? Some sort of female hierarchy thing where being the only one with a boyfriend makes her higher status than Tara? If there are shifters and Og knows what else, she and Bill aren’t the special snowflakes she thought they were? Some kind of swamp critter crawled up her ass and died?

People who have read the books, does she stay this way? I really like the show, but I don’t know how much more I can stand of Miss I’m So Alone in The World So You Assholes Stay Away From Me.

I thought this was a rotten episode, although I am perversely glad they showed the exorcisms to be fake.

Probably nobody cares, but almost nothing from last night’s episode is in the book. None of that wretched vampire court, none of Tara’s ordeal, none of Amy or Eddie the vampire, and none of Sam’s unhappy childhood. In my opinion, the parts they are inventing are inferior to what Harris wrote (not that the books are grand literature.) In the books Sookie does feel very lonely, but I don’t remember her being this childish.

Back to the show: I think it hasn’t occurred to Lafayette that Jason would kidnap Eddie. He’s worried that Jason told someone about the V, and someone else did the kidnapping, and the vampires will find out about his dealing.

It looked like he picked something up off the floor at Eddie’s and then said “Jason!”

Was Jason hooked on V in the book? Did he get it from Lafayette?

If vampires are supposed to be strong, why couldn’t Eddie get loose? Was he tied with silver? I couldn’t tell. And why did Jason leave Eddie’s cell phone just a few feet away from him?

JavaMaven, “wake up dead”. Heh.

I’m feeling better about the vampire court. The incongruity of someone calling himself Magister and holding court from a flatbed truck is funny but scary at the same time. But it does seem like these vampires have seen too many movies.

I agree, Lafayette thinks Jason told someone more competent about the V, and that person kidnapped Eddie. Which is what happened actually, but not in the way Lafayette is imagining.

I’m still enjoying it a lot. All along, to call Sookie labile would be a grand understatement. She’s traveled from the depths of despair to cockeyed optimism and back at least three times already. It doesn’t bother me, really. She’s a kid, and one who lost her parents, got molested by her uncle, and spent her life isolated because she’s a freak. For her to be childish and volatile makes sense.

I’m so, so glad that they made Amy evil. I hated her from her first appearance, and now I feel justified. I loved her crap about digging a well for poor Guatamalans. She strikes me as more reprehensible than the vampires at the tribunal. So is Eddie really dead? They didn’t show it directly, and Stephen Root has a credit in the opening titles, so it struck me as weird.

I love that the exorcism was fake, and the way the hoodoo lady admitted, “Ipecac, and a touch of peyote.” Poor Tara, will she ever realize that even in a world with supernatural creatures of all kinds, what she really needs is lots of garden-variety therapy?

Which brings me to the big question: what the hell is up with the semi-nude pig woman?!

And that’s the thing. Jason would never have kidnapped Eddie on his own. (Actually, if Jason met Eddie on his own, he might have been able to work out a deal with him that would satisfy both their needs.)

As for Sookie, I didn’t understand why she was pissed at Sam for not telling her his secret earlier. This was something he hadn’t told anyone and he only told her because there was no alternative.

She’s not a kid–she’s twenty-five fucking years old, more than old enough to understand that if you feel alone in the world, being an absolute cunt to the people who love you and want to support you and trying to push them away is the last thing you should be doing. You know, old enough to know that you don’t get to piss and moan about how nobody likes you and everybody hates and you think you’ll go eat worms to the people who would go through hell and back for you without ever batting an eyelash.

I think what really bothers me about it is that near as I can tell, we’re supposed to think Sookie is a good, kind, generous, open-hearted person, a veritable fountain of sunshine and rainbows and unicorn farts. And frankly, I’m not buying it.

Sure, she was the epitome of all Scouting principles that first episode or two, but since then she’s been rather an asshole to everybody but Bill. Well, except when she’s just gotten laid.

All the other characters have really grown on me, even Jason and Tara’s drunken abusive mother. But I’m starting to kind of hate Sookie.

I just remember Jason being a big ho bag, and a general ‘partyer’

Yep, I was pretty irritated at her last night also. Aside from the Bill/Sookie scenes (yum), I haven’t been crazy about her since her gran died.

This, unlike a bunch of stuff on the show, is from the book, although like a lot of other stuff, isn’t playing out the way it does in the book (so far).

Huh,I don’t remember that part?

Tara, that you?

Remember when Tara saw an animal in the road and she swerved and crashed? Instead of an animal (I thought it was a deer but maybe it was a big pig) we saw a woman wearing an evil look and not much else.

Re: the naked woman with a huge pig

I read the first book and I don’t remember that. Would you mind spoilering what naked chick’s deal is, please? :cool:

Sookie’s been on my last nerve since day one. I don’t know if it’s because how Anna Paquin is playing her (some scenes with her, especially in the first few episodes were down right odd) or what but the whole gosh-golly-gee-whiz and now woe-is-me-I’m-a-bitch-to-everyone is getting really old.

Well, I’m not exactly sure what her deal is going to be within this particular story line, but

She appears in Book 2 and has her first interaction with Sookie. She is a maenad, a figure of greek mythology that is a raving mad worshipper of Dionysus. Wiki says “Their name literally translates as “raving ones”. They were known as wild, insane women who could not be reasoned with. The mysteries of Dionysus inspired the women to ecstatic frenzy; they indulged in copious amounts of violence, bloodletting, sexual activity, self-intoxication, and mutilation.”

Who knows how it will play out in this show!

Yeah, you’re probably right - I just tend to think of Anna Paquin as young, since I saw her in The Piano when I was already a grownup (in other words, I’m getting old!).

As for the pig lady - we viewers got a blurry, brief shot of person and an animal standing next to each other in the road, and Tara swerved to avoid them, and crashed in the woods. My husband said, “What the hell was that?” and I replied that given what had been revealed in this episode, it might well be a centaur. But on rewind and frame-by-frame analysis, it looks like a dark-haired woman wearing brown pants and possibly pasties, standing next to a huge pig. After the crash, the camera cuts to a closeup of her face, and not only does she not look perturbed, she looks happy and satisfied, and walks off with an air of accomplishment.

I thought the naked lady looked like Dawn, the waitress that was killed.

It looked to me like Michelle Forbes. According to imdb, Forbes is playing a character called Maryann and has already been in several eps, but I hadn’t noticed her before. So now I’m confused.

I have a theory about who is the killer of Dawn, Maudette, and Gran. It’s Amy. She’s killing the women who are closest to Jason, which might explain why Sookie is being stalked. Will someone who knows the answer PM me and let me know if I’m right? Or is Amy not even a character in the books?

But those people were killed before Jason and Amy met. I’ll be pissed if it’s Amy. Not because I like the bitch but because it’d be so out of the blue.

I have no idea who the killer is. If there have been clues, I’ve missed all of them.