I cannot interpret this any way except “stop disagreeing with us or you will be banned”.
And this in the context of at least one other thread, mentioning her by name, that says specifically that her divorces are immoral, and in the middle of a thread where practically every post tells her to change.
Kirkland1244 has been banned, Hastur has been warned, Sterra posts “…you’re a horrible person”, but His4ever is the one being blamed for it all.
:rolleyes:
Regards,
Shodan
Seriously, though, His4Ever, do you live in Arizona and have a son named Adam?
(inside joke for those who remember ARG)
Why do you attack me for this? I clearly said I meant no offense by it. If you are just going to attack me I am going to leave this board.*
*That is what you call a parody.
How is she getting blamed for it all? You said yourself, Kirkland was banned. She is not.
What exactly do you mean by “getting your thoughts in line?” Does that mean you changed so you could agree with everybody?
Mercy. Why on earth would it mean that?
Also, what do you mean by sending me to a website so I can “grow”? Do you mean by that that it’ll supposedy help me change my beliefs on certain things to be more in line with the majority on the SDMB? I’m afraid if your idea of growth is to abandon what I believe to be truth in order to fit in, I can’t do that. Sorry.
His4ever has never called anyone on the board a horrible person. She has stated that she thinks that homosexuality is a sin.
It doesn’t seem to be possible for her to post without being attacked. If she starts a thread in a different forum, it gets moved to the Pit so the usual suspects can start flaming.
As I mentioned in the “God forbid we should teach our children” thread, it doesn’t seem possible for some people to distinguish between “I disagree with you” and “you are a bad person”.
Would that it were. Less heat, but more light.
Regards,
Shodan
And if I cannot change my beliefs about divorce and remarriage, does that mean I should come into every thread you post in and tell you that you are living a sinful lifestyle? That is what you do to homosexuals. Are you prepared to be judged as you have judged?
CJ
Nobody’s asking you to abandon your beliefs; we would like you to state your beleifs in a less coonfrontational way. While you have an interpretation of Scripture that you believe to be true, you refuse to acknowledge that other people have views of Scripture that they beleive to be equally valid. Since you are not God, you do not have the final say on which view is correct. Hold on to your view by all means, but allow others to have theirs too. Moreover, lay off the judgement and increase the charity, which is, as I see it, the main thrust of Scripture. (Did you note how I worded that last sentence–“Moreover, lay off the judgement and increase the charity, which is, as I see it, the main thrust of Scripture.” If you include phrases like, “as I see it,” in my opinion", from my point of view." If you do that, then your posts won’t come off as the unquestioned pronouncements from God’s Voice on Earth.) You’re not God, you don’t know His will (nobody does, for no human can comprehend the total Mind of God), and so your posts should sound less oracular.
His4Ever
The problem with your beliefs is that you believe with your brain, but not with your heart.
I haven’t gone into and am not going to go into every thread I see on homosexuality and give my 2 cents worth. What would be the point? I’ve already given my view, everyone knows it so why would I continue to invade threads on this subject?
His4Ever, then please start posting about other stuff. If we now your views, no need to pound them over and over again.
I want to have sex with Vin Diesel, but I don’t post about it every day.
You’ve seen me defend you (I hope) in other threads where you weren’t “posting fundie” and others unnecessarily jumped you. That’s all some of us are asking. Step back from the pits and debates for a while and tell us about your favorite movie, or what you’re reading right now, or your best baked bean recipe.
After a while you may get to know people better and build up a bit of a thick skin.
I’ll pray for you. I hope you succeed.
Jar
H4e was called to task for hypocricy, not to condemn her divorces as immoral. One comes off as rather hypocritical for condemning others for living in a state of sin (i.e., homosexuality) while one is simultaneously living in another state of sin (i.e., divorce and remarriage). Do try to keep up with the rest of the class, Shodan.
Regardless,
minty green
Then you’ve changed your behaviour during the past month. I’m referring specifically to your actions on Nov. 10th on page 3 of the “Fucking Christians” thread.
You still have a habit of trying to condemn Catholics, Mormons, and anyone who’s views disagree with yours as non-Christians.
His4Ever, are you so sure Jesus would do what you have done?
CJ
I have posted in other threads, such as Cafe, that have nothing to do with God or beliefs.
I’m reading a mystery right now. I like mysteries where you have to figure out “who done it” or “is the missing person dead”. Also like gothic romance. Too many movies I like to give a favorite.
Umm… I really think you’re missing the point, His4Ever. I like you as a person, and I think you’re sincerely trying to do your best to follow Jesus.
Which makes it really difficult to understand why you can take stances like this.
Because for every word Jesus had to say about repenting of particular sins of commission, He had twice as much to say about people who used the Law as a means to justify their own behavior (by interpreting it out of shape) while judging other people by it.
I think there would not be a person on this board who had a problem with your saying, “Well, I wouldn’t engage in sex with another woman, because I can see in the Bible that God condemns it. What you do and whether you’ll risk His judgment is up to you, but I feel honor-bound to point that out.”
What a lot of us are saying is that we as Christians have a direct command from our Lord to show compassion and friendship – agape love – towards all other people, and particularly those whom society stands in judgment over. Read practically everything He said to the Pharisees, especially the Parables of the Prodigal Son and the Good Samaritan (remembering that Samaritans were evil half-caste heretics to the Jews). Read the Parable of the Sheep and Goats.
And the “hypocrite” thing results, not from you having gone through a divorce – there are few of us who would condemn you for divorcing your first husband after seeing your comments on what that marriage was like, and those who would deserve to be guests of honor at their very own Pit threads, IMHO – but from your apparent judgmentalism towards gay people combined with your willingness to “bend” a literal reading of Jesus’s teaching on divorce to justify what you felt it necessary to do.
You aren’t gay; you don’t have a feel for what it must be like to be gay. So stop, listen, understand what they’re saying. Then, in love, advise them as you see fit based on your understanding of what Jesus wants.
I emphatically do not want you to “change your mind” on anything related to your salvation – you are following the Lord, and that’s what matters. I want you to do what He said to do.
Slightly over two years ago, I said to FriendOfGod, in a very similar context, “Nowhere in Scripture does it say, ‘Go therefore forth and smite them about the head with thy Bible.’” I hope you see the point – you can use a Bible verse to hurt people with, as those who took Jesus’s teaching about divorce to chastize you did. In the name of the Lord God Almighty, I say to you, don’t do it.
Show His love instead.
Peace be with you.
Jack, could you please reference the source of this quote? I strongly suspect that you are guilty of the same offense as Hastur
Considering the complaint of the OP, if my guess is right, you’ve legitimized her rant. I have never read a post of hers that puts her in such a disgusting light. I’m prepared to report this post, but I’ll wait for your reply.
Then I humbly submit your interpretation skills are lacking. Severely. Disagreeing with “us”? Who’s “us”? Surely, you don’t mean to imply we warn or ban all posters who express that they believe homosexuality is a sin? Because we don’t. There’s plenty of Christians on these boards who do know what “Love the sinner, hate the sin” means.
If you heap your own moral values onto others unasked, you better make damn sure your own record is clean, or someone, sooner or later, WILL present you with a mirror. Welcome to the Straight Dope.
I’ve read this paragraph four times, and I still don’t see what your point might be. His4ever is being held responsible for her actions, and hers alone.
grienspace, there is a thin line between paraphrasing someone, and wrongly attributing words to them. It’s a tough call to make at times, and you’re fully justified in asking Jack Batty to back up his paraphrase. But I don’t think JB leaves the impression that His4ever literally said what he states, whereas Hastur’s example was an obvious misattribution.
Like I said, a tough call to make, but that’s the gist of it.