I don’t think she’s used to people who will keep on coming at her. I think she’s used to people who either “see the light” for the purpose of getting her to shut up (“Yes, I accept the dude, now will you please fuck off already?”) or just completely ignore her.
But I don’t think she’s at all used to the many types of arguments she’s gotten here even from the start. First thread she was in (started by Eve in GD, I think) she said, after a few responses, “I don’t know how to answer that.” It’s been pretty clear for a while that she doesn’t know much about her faith other than who (other than her) is a sinner.
And especially clear that expressing God’s love in a way other than saying “you’re sinning” is anathema to her. Pity, too. With the way she’s headstrong about her other religious beliefs, she could be a strong soldier in His army. Instead she’s busy firing at her fellow soldiers.
Well, I went and searched for a bunch of H4E’s posts to refresh my memory and make sure of what she seems to be doing. (I generally stay out fundies threads 'cause I usually find them to be a mockery of reasonable people who believe that the Bible may in fact be Divinely inspired or, at least, valuable moral guidence and good literature.)
And… while I still say everyone has their right to hold and post an opinion… I have to say to H4E, “Lighten up! You’re making Christianity look bad.”
While there are, indeed rules that Christians should follow (Ok, ok. That’s IMHO), the primary law of Christianity was stated by Jesus himself in John 13:34. “I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, that you also love one another.”
I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt, H4E, but you’re sinking your own ship.
His4ever, I too would like to ask you to stay. And again, with a heartfelt suggestion that you think twice and post once.
I speak as the proverbial voice of experience here, in case you’re wondering. I began my SDMB postings in a thread about homosexuality, and was soundly whooped by many a poster. You see, my error was that it, meaning homosexuality, had no import to me. And being a simpleton, I failed to recognize that this issue is naturally more than an abstract one to far too many people to be treated in a cavalier manner. My incredibly pathetic attitude allowed me to jump into the water, feet first, and proceed to wax idiotic about the perils of gaydom. Yes, I was stupid in many, many ways. Now I didn’t leave, at least not immediately, but the bad taste from my own actions took a toll. I eventually took a four month break from the board to get my thoughts in line, and I’ve just recently started posting. Hoping I’ve lived and learned something, even a little, to better my time here, I’m urging you to think about doing the same.
And by the by, you don’t accept e-mail apparently. Send me a message at aol and I’ll send you a website where you might find some room for growth. If you’re interested.
I think she’s a good person, after all-I can see it. But I think she just has so many issues with herself and her faith. I don’t see someone who ENJOYS telling people they’re going to Hell.
I have to say that I wasn’t used to those things either when I first came to this message board. But after all the threads and mistakes I made I really feel this board has helped me to “see the light” as you say :). I just spent an incredible two months with people from all over the world and I have to say that without the things I have learned and experienced here, I may have been quite judgemental at some of the things and people I saw and met.
I really hope and pray His4ever that this experience, in the end, will bring you a more loving, compassionate, and caring heart. I hope that you will bring out of this an ear for hearing when someone is truly calling out to be witnessed too, and when someone just wants to be loved by another human being and not judged.
God is love and he calls his followers to be the same. I hope you as well as I can remember to love others as he loves us.
NoClueBoy, I think you have an abundance of clues!
When a person uses such aggressive expressions as, “When will you get that through your heads?” and “How many times do I have to remind people of this?” and “Did any of you ever think of that? Huh?,” I do tend to see the person as hostile and attacking. Can you imagine what would happen to a teacher who used those words with a student in the classroom? It is a kind of verbal abuse.
I have no reason to want His4Ever to leave. But I hope that she will address some of the people who have not called her names.
Libertarian, your response to His4Ever is above and beyond anything else here. Thanks for the reminder of the real issue.
I suggest to you that it’d been a joke (ie, shouldn’t have been taken seriously).
You continue to poke stick.
I guess you wanted to wait until the poster of the joke acknowledged it was a joke before you let go, but jeeze.
hostile to you? not really (or that wasn’t the intent). Just seemed you were drawing a line in the sand over naught, and a hijacking at that. and I was trying to point out that it was a joke in the first, second and third place.