I couldn’t help myself. I’d go find the car attached to the keys and drive into something horrible - a sewage treatment plant, a wall, New Jersey…
Ahhhhh.
Then may the whole world graciously accept a few minutes of ‘brownout’ while the collective amperage of all seven continents is temporarily diverted to where it’s so desperately needed.
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZT !
Gosh. I hope we didn’t just char Lindsey Graham in the process 
Pence got himself out of the way just in time.
He was never in danger. Mother always knows exactly where his balls are at.
And, sadly, a metaphor for what the Biden administration will be facing in 12 days.
In case people can’t or didn’t want to check the picture link in the tweet:
I applaud his efforts and his commitment.
I also hope he’s been instructed not to throw away (for keeps) anything that could possibly be used as evidence, particularly things like the cigarette butts referenced in the article, and which can often provide DNA.
Trump clearly put Pence in an impossible position. He could not overturn the election, regardless of Trump’s thinking. And he could not remain popular among some diehard Trumpists if he did not pull some ridiculous stunt. Being honest was the right choice. Although seeing his obnoxious and subservient expression every time Trump speaks can be bothersome, he does have every right to be angry.
Don’t throw me in the briar patch!
He couldn’t overturn the election, but he could have helped create the perception that he could have, which is what Trump wanted him to do. Had Pence actually done that, and had more Republicans in positions of power suggested that as a possibility, we could very well be still dealing with a political coup.
I don’t know how close we were to a tipping point, but I would say that we were much closer than we (myself included) realize. Trump was basically asking Pence, McConnell, and others to ignore the Constitution, and here’s the thing: they absolutely could have chosen to do just that. And as bad as things already are, we’d have one hell of a damn mess on our hands if they had.
Is there actually a potential crime for which pardon would not be possible?
To pardon someone for unspecified crimes, and then discover that the crime turns out to be something heinous - serial murder, insurrection, massive financial irregularity, selling secrets to the enemy etc seems to me to be a problem.
I could just about imagine a pardon for one specific potential crime - I just have to wonder about a blanket pardon, and would that relate to just the one crime, or does that relate to a whole number of various crimes?
Until the extent of a crime can be established, how would it be possible to pardon it - in logic rather than by precedent.
I can imagine a pardon for something that was previously a crime but now is no longer a crime or is not in the public interest - such as being gay back in the past or draft dodging but this does not seem to fit that.
If that isn’t a crime, I don’t know what is @Gyrate
It definitely seems like a problem.
But really, that would be no more problematic than specifically pardoning a person for “something heinous - serial murder, insurrection, massive financial irregularity, selling secrets to the enemy etc.” And there is absolutely no barrier to a president doing that, as long as the crimes are federal crimes.
There’s basically no limit on the pardon power, certainly not in terms of the heinousness of the crime.
The National Constitution Center has a regular podcast called We The People, in which they deal with important constitutional issues. They usually get two (sometimes more) prominent constitutional scholars to discuss and debate. A few weeks ago they had an episode called Can the President Pardon Himself? If you’ve got an hour, and are interested in the issue, it’s well worth a listen.
News now reporting that the Capitol Police officer who died was a Trump supporter with a suspended Twitter account. Nice going, seditionists, you killed one of your own!
Her actions say otherwise.
She even tweeted, “Nothing will stop us!”.
She was told to get back from the barricade, she assaulted it anyway, and paid the price. If she actually understood the gravity of her action, if she actually thought that she as putting her life in danger, I doubt she would have so cavalierly thrown it away.
Once she was bleeding out on the floor, the rest of the insurrectionists suddenly got it, and backed off.
Have the Capital Police said explicitly that he was on duty, in uniform?
ETA: yes, they said he was on on duty
I’m sure this will just make him and the woman who got shot twin martyrs to the cause of liberty. Not sure if the dumbass who tased himself into a heart attack will be included in the count.
That’s what happens when you support the “Leopards hit you in the head with a fire extinguisher” party.
Chief of the Capitol Police will resign as of 16 January.
The word essentially minimizes and downplays what happened IMO; the sentence is more accurate without it:
Donald Trump deliberately put lives in danger, including that of his own Vice President and the Vice President’s family.