But this explains what did happen after they were in the room.
The Dutch newspapers had some follow-up today. Apparently, Joran has had impulse control problems all his life. As a boy, he was in therapy for serious (non-sexual) abuse of his brother. He was also once arrested for pushing an homeless wino off of a bridge. His father and mother couldn’t stand up to him; he has frauded his mom out of a substantial amount of money. Joran always had money trouble the past few years; his SOP was getting with some rich girl (as Stephany Flores was) and milking her for all she was worth.
Out of curiosity, what did van der Sloot do for a living? Is he a full-time student? Did he have a job? Or, coming from a well-off family, is he just a party-boy?
Something I thought was interesting was a Dutch TV interview (translated from Dutch to English obviously) with his mother on CNN in which she discusses his spirits, says he claims he’s being well treated, discussing the possibility of going to see him, etc., but never one time did she claim his innocence or her belief in his innocence. On most true crime interviews, even if the evidence was damning, they’d usually lead with “I know my son didn’t do this”.
The latter: a party boy and a con-man.
This blog is kinda interesting. (scroll down for the part written in (bad) english). The writer is the Dutch reality show winnerwho goes by the nickname of “Terror Jaap”. He won a million dollars in a reality show by manipulating the other contestants and the show, and driving them crazy, lying about giving half of the big prize to charity, etc. Now he says that persona was just an act. Anyway, Joran was a fan of his persona, and he says he has been in contact with Joran’s “representative” and Joran himself in order to get Joran to confess the whereabouts of Natalee’s body. In exchange Joran would get half of the money the commercial rights to the documentary would fetch. So that might tell you what kind of person this Terror Jaap is.
Anyway, Dutch police confiscated Terror Jaap’s computer stuff yesterday night and he claims a lot of his info has now been given to US media.
I just saw on ABC News that the President of Peru has said that he will not allow JVDS to serve his prison time (I guess at this point no one is really giving him any presumption of innocence anymore) in any other country besides Peru…
I think that death would be much preferable to 30 years of prison time in Peru, at least assuming he wouldn’t be able to buy himself special luxuries. (as rich people can often supposedly buy in Columbian prisons for example)
After reading that I thought it might be interesting to see it on google maps but I couldn’t find an address for the place.
That article has the name of the prison wrong, it’s Lurigancho.
This thread is just atrocious
“van der Slut”
Hoping he gets gang raped in prison?
Calling him a shitbag?
wishing that his father rots in hell?
based on what? some cracked out white trash woman in 'bama sure as shit that he murdered her promiscu… pride and joy without any evidence whatsoever?
I didn’t see the prison in your link. Does this one show the prison?
On preview, it does.
Looked at this fellow a bit more.
Nasty bugger, isn’t he? I suspect {{removed doper screename; virginal harpee will do :)}} would have liked him, but aside from that he seems to have been behaving in such a way that he ought ot have been under far more surveillance. Interesting - especially what has gone on since - debate here about his rights.
I don’t understand. Can you make this more clear, please?
I don’t understand. Can you make this more clear, please?
Having read up about him it’s pretty clear he’s been behaving like a sociopathic motherfucker, about to strike again. Some kind of mamillian velocirapter. Given his previous form the Dutch should have been keeping tracks on him.
Now to turn what I said above on its head - even with that knowledge, would it have been right to watch what he was up to? Maybe it was too big brother, even with him being such a bastard. See what I mean?
Do you think there are enough police in Aruba to follow every suspected future criminal forever? Even follow them to Peru?
Mammalian, by the way. It comes from mammal.
I type as I speak, that’s all 
No obviously I don’t expect police to actually keep tabs on mothercukers, but as this chap seems to be proving even vague observatgion and the motherfuckingcuntgs do it again#1
But I would say, Frank, you’re a good man. Plase work towards goodnhess in your judical system. I will do the same over here. 
Explain why Holloway’s mother is white trash please- is it because she’s the mother of a girl who [gasp] did something stupid on a graduation trip? If it’s because she’s from Alabama, then… ah, this isn’t the pit, never mind.
As for the lack of “any evidence whatsoever”, are you at all familiar with this case? Other than being spotted with her the night she died, changing his story several times, describing her death in detail, and accepting money to tell where the body is… yeah, not evidence at all.
A baseball bat? Not a cricket bat?
I don’t doubt the Dutch police has, in some way. What is more, Peter R de Vries has. De vries has tried to trap Joran in Thailand, but entrapment does’t land a guy in jail.
What is this phantom bat? There is no basebalbat in de hotel security video.