HERES a super-stretch…Pietro is Loki. And in THAT Loki’s universe*, the Fox X-Men exist.
*The one he’s from. Where two Caps fight, and he gets away with the Space Stone.
…probably not. But he sure talks like Loki.
HERES a super-stretch…Pietro is Loki. And in THAT Loki’s universe*, the Fox X-Men exist.
*The one he’s from. Where two Caps fight, and he gets away with the Space Stone.
…probably not. But he sure talks like Loki.
What I want to know is where all of the people in Westview came from. Remember, when Monica and Jimmy first arrived, the cop told him there was no such place as Westview. Wanda (or somebody else) actively abducted those people from somewhere else.
Westview existed before Wanda showed up. The cops who kept insisting their was no such place were being mindfucked to not be able to perceive/remember it.
Has that been established in any way or is it a theory? If the former, it flew right past me.
Agent Woo had someone under Witness Protection living in Westview go missing, which is what started their investigation. We still don’t know who that person was, by the way.
We also don’t know where Dottie went and there’s the mystery of Agnes’ unseen husband.
It needs to be three weeks later cause it’s getting late and my brain is starting to do ‘Pepe Silvia’ levels of conspiricies.
"Maybe Pietro really IS a vampire!!! Maybe its Dracula and HE’LL be played by Tom Cruise!!’
But back to reality…ep 7 or ep 8 will almost certainly end on:
VO: “The real question is…why did you wait so long to call me?” (Pan to Stephen Strange taking off his sunglasses)
I think Terminus_Est meant as their own standalone series. I’ve seen others suggest it before as well.
With Young Avengers already announced for next year, I assumed this would be the case.
…I’m wanting Pietro to be multiverse Quicksilver because that would be really cool. But I think that due to Roger Ebert’s Laws of Economy of Characters I think there is only one person that Pietro can be. (speculation not based on spoilers.)
Firstly the law:
The Law of Economy of Characters | Literary Lunchbox.
So who do I think Pietro is?
Its the witness that Woo was after in episode 3. Its Agne’s husband that she has mentioned but we’ve never seen, but has been mentioned in every episode.
Its Ralph.
Ralph is either one of two things: he is either the sitcom trope of the spouse that is often mentioned but never seen (like Maris or Vera). Or they are the big bad.
The downside of the theory is that Woo would have recognized Pietro (assuming he had kept the same face!!!) But perhaps the witness isn’t the Ralph, and isn’t important to the story, Ralph is just Ralph, who is also Pietro.
And now I’m overthinking things
I quite like this idea. I can see it working.
They were standing right next to a giant Welcome to Westview billboard and wearing Westview Police uniforms.
I do kinda wonder where they are working now. Is there even an Eastview, where they say they are from?
My husband said he thinks Darcy will turn into the “cool babysitter”. (I think Quicksilver’s already got that job.)
Speaking of Darcy, the last thing Vision would have heard before collapsing was her voice, shouting, “Help him! Help him!” If he remembers that, he may try to reach out to her for assistance.
Speaking of Quicksilver, I think he’s the Fox Quicksilver. I think he wants to go back, but doesn’t know how, which is why he was trying to get intel from Wanda. He’s definitely more aware of what’s going on than most people.
I like the idea of trying to apply that law here! The Big Bad is hidden in plain view as the person there for no obvious good reason.
Pietro has reason to be there. The theme is grief (Monica too, they both blipped back to a moment of sudden loss) and of course Pietro fits with that. Plus may be the hint of fitting X-men as a multiverse product.
Hayward? Reason to be there and an obvious villain. Not the surprise Big Bad.
Agnes? Clearly lots of reason to be suspecting her. Featured in the open credits this time despite not being in scene with Wanda at all. In the Agatha Harkness costume. Too obvious. Almost certainly not just a townie, likely actually Harkness, but not the Big Bad.
Ralph? Not even there! I don’t think he exists. It’s just the sit com joke.
Herb? Like Agatha clearly of slightly greater awareness. Not much reason for him to be there. But his bit trimming the hedges seems like he’s not the Big Bad.
Dottie? Her bleeding red and being put up as the one in charge of the town may be significant. The retrospective, they freakin’ told us she was in charge, could be fun.
Mr. Hart? Not there since episode one but his questioning seems in line with Pietro’s - controlled by the Big Bad to get information about how Wanda did this.
Vision’s other co-workers? Nah.
I’m running out. Least poor guess to me is Dottie. She and her husband Phil actually had a sit com scene without Wanda or Vision on screen with them. That might be significant. Well then there is also Phil but I see him as comic relief.
One out there thought. We are all going with House of M and the occult angle … and I never saw Age of Ultron … but are we sure that the program of Ultron was completely destroyed? Could a disembodied Ultron be the (or at least a) Big Bad? With Hayward using S.W.O.R.D. to attempt to get Vision up and running as the vessel for him (thinking he could control it for use as a weapon to have against supers if ever needed)? And Wanda having created the bubble to save Vision from that, mixed with her angry grief of course, and that having provided an entry into the occult Big Bad power(s) that will drive a next movie or two?
CATARACT then blocks Vision (which is what cataracts do) so Ultron could dominate the body and be the mind. What would those letters stand for?
It occurred to me again, when it comes to Hayward, etc - there is going to be ALOT of anger overall due to the blip and against ‘supers’ in general, along with fear of them - I think the tie to the Incredibles is intended to help convey that.
And with “Naughty” written on her pants.
Yeah, it’s explicit in the show: Monica and Jimmy wonder why the cops perceptions are being altered, but not theirs, just before Monica gets sucked into Westview.
Nah, we know the Fox X-Men don’t exist in that universe, because it was the main MCU universe right up until Loki snagged the Tesseract and disappeared. The only differences in the two universes would be after that point of divergence, which is only about ten years prior to the events of WandaVision. Pietro already exists in that universe, and he looks like the other guy.
Well…to nitpick, the Fox’s timeline is all messed up anyway.
There’s another universe whose timeline is irreparable too. The one where Thanos went into the future and got killed along with all his allies… Which i think is the same as ‘Quill gets knocked out by Rhodey’ but not ‘Loki gets the Space Stone’
Regardless of whether Pietro is Mephisto or whoever…I think he’s related to one of those two events.
Maybe Cap never really returned the Mind Stone. I mean whats the point? That timeline is already messed up by losing the Space Stone. Maybe he gave it to Wanda.