Most animals don’t sound like creaking metalic objects when they move, either…
Unless they’re ARMORED polar bears! :eek:
(What? I’m on the third book of His Dark Materials. Iorek is my hero!)
Oooh, and maybe there also was really no transceiver! No wonder they are having trouble radioing for help – Sayid’s been trying to fix a rock all this time. 
Seriously, I don’t like this option, as it requires Jack, Kate, and Charlie to all have had the same vision quest. In fact, if it’s just a vision every time they see something big knocking trees down, then it would have required all the folks at the beach to have the same vision at the same time in the first ep – and if the writers try to pull this, they will lose serious creditbility with me.
arggggh. “credibility”, dammit.
Oh, also… this thread title is off, if it’s for this week’s show:
**Welcome, castaways! Lost 1.12 **
This was episode 1.13
But it aired on 1/12 … right?
Oh, shoot. That reminds me. I need to sort out some things in the Questions thread.
Yes, but almost all the other Lost threads have put the episode number in the title, not the date, and in that format. The one or two I found with date in the format would have looked like this:
1/12
Not trying to start an argument – just pointing it out.
Ep. 1.12 was “Whatever the Case May Be”
Ep. 1.13 was the latest: “Hearts and Minds”
The most likely bet would be something along the lines of datura. The right sort of environment to find it wild. It would be a mistake to expect something along the lines of an experience with a recreational “hallucinogen” like LSD or psilocybin, which don’t create “true” hallucinations so much as baroque visualizations and an altered cognitive state, leaving the user generally aware that “something is definitely out of the ordinary.”
The alkaloids in datura don’t produce a psychedlic effect, and under the influence of them, people are typically unaware that they’re in a drugged state. (It comes on with a horrible “poisoned” feeling and a sort of semi-paralysis. And after that the person slips into an ambulatory dream. It’s almost universal for people to experience seemingly mundane conversations with people who aren’t there at all – and the hallucination has the solidity and authenticity of a dream. No undulating walls or three-headed masturbating monkeys – maybe just a long rambling conversation with someone you know, even if they’re actually sitting at home, or been dead for years, or something.
I don’t think Shannon’s body looked anything like the pilot’s body.
But then I didn’t see the pilot in a bikini 
We’ve got some of that growing just a couple houses down too.
Note to self: Don’t try any!
What does it matter what you were wearing when you saw the pilot? 
Note to Levdrakon: datura is very, very potent. It’s possible to give yourself an experience not unlike Boone’s simply by pruning it without gloves and rubbing the leaves between your hands into a ball to throw it all away. :smack: I. Thought. I. Was. Dying.
Seriously, datura is not for the uninitiated, or for recreational use. It should only and if ever be used under the strict supervision of a medicine man or shaman who is trained in dosage and use. It’s very, very possible to overdose on it from only skin contact. An overdose includes respiratory and heart failure. The leaves, the seed pods, the seeds and the roots are all active. I have no idea why it’s legal and other plants aren’t.
Datura: the common name for those is angel’s trumpets right? I’ve got some in the yard and never knew I needed to be careful with them.
-rainy
But you were wondering why the neighbourhood kids keep volunteering to mow your lawn for free.
That’s them. There’s quite a few varieties, but as fas as I know, they’re all psychoactive. They’re gorgeous, aren’t they? I love them to pieces, and would not go so far as to recommend you tear them out. Just wear gardening gloves if they need pruning and maybe long pants if your the kind of gardener who climbs on in there. When you pick up the pruned stalks and leaves, do it with gloves and put in in your compost or waste bin with gloves. That’s it. My warnings were intended mostly for any Dopers or lurkers out there who might get excited about a legal trip. It may be legal, but it ain’t fun and it ain’t safe.
Well, I’ve managed to hijack this thread something fierce for my little PSA, haven’t I? :smack: Sorry about that.
Umm…Hurley! He’s cool. Can’t wait to see his backstory. Erm…
I got nothin’. Sorry.
Emphatically seconded- I neglected to include such a caveat because only it’s waay into the ‘obvious’ column for me.
One of the primary alkaloids in datura, by the way, is atropine – you know, the one that’s named after the Fate that cuts the thread. Dire. 
Two things:
I posted about hearing Driveshaft played at the party on Alias a couple of days ago - but now that thread seems to have disappeared. Weird.
I haven’t read anyone offer a clear explanation about the Michaelangelo comment by Locke, so I offer one here: Locke was just saying that sometimes, it is good to sit still and contemplate the task at hand. Michaelangelo visualized sculpting the marble into David, Locke was contemplating ways to get into the hatch, along with how to enlighten young Boone. I am surprised Locked didn’t also mention Einstein, who is famous for his thought experiments…
When I was watching the show and considering myself what the best way to open the hatch, the first thing that came to mind was “from the inside” - not exactly sure how helpful it is, but that is what I thought of…
It’s also possible to give yourself an experience not unlike Boone’s by getting it on with your hot sister…
Oh, wait, you meant the hallucination thingy, didn’t you.?
Carry on… 
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Yep, Locke was giving the long version of:
“Patience, Grasshopper.”
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Do I know how to start great threads or what???