Well, crap and a half. I hate this

OK, there is a girl that I have fallen in love with. All of my friends want to know why. I have known her for a year and a half, and I would call us close friends. She is a pretty girl, but flirts with every guy in the school. She is materialistic, and a teeny-bopper to boot. But I can’t help that.

I asked her to homecoming. No answer. I asked her Sunday. Still nothing. I am beginning to wonder what is happening. I contact my information brokers and find out some disconcerting news. She is going with some guy named Wes. And here’s the kicker! She has to give him a blowjob for him to go with her! And she is still going to do it!

Here I am. I would describe myself as kind and caring, and insightful. I really love her and care about her. It kills me to see her going with people who will just use her. And on top of that she would rather go with a guy and sell herself than go with me, let me get everything for her, etc. I can’t just forget about her. To me, it would be like writing a book for 1 & 1/2 years and then stopping because I couldn’t finish the last chapter. It hurts now. It hurts a lot.

Of course it hurts, dragon, that’s because it’s a painful lesson. The lesson is thus:

People are defined by their actions, not by what you feel for them. A girl who will ignore the invitation of a friend and allow a boy to treat her like a whore is . . . a girl who ignores the invitation of a friend and allows a boy to treat her like a whore.

Yes, it hurts to shut the book now, but I can pretty much guarantee you that if you continue the story, you’re only going to get more of the same. You have a responsibility to yourself, dragon, not to let people treat you badly. Do your grieving, but get away from this poisonous, materialistic teenybopping whore.

You’re lucky you found this out now. Imagine going out with her for a while only to find out she’d been sucking dick in exchange for rides to the mall. Or possibly a bit of head for a new purse. She’ll swallow for matching socks.

I’d imagine that would hurt ten times more.

Sorry if that last post sounded a little insensitive. I know it sucks, dude. I think that you’ll find that women don’t go for nice guys until after high school. Sucks because that’s often when you need someone the most. Bide your time and good things will happen.

I would also note (parenthetically, if I must) that the whole “blow job” business makes really juicy gossip and doesn’t have to have a single iota of truth in it to be eagerly forwarded to you, just to see your reaction.

If she’s going with the other guy, then you’ve been cast aside. There is no question about that. However, before you get into a serious bout of teenage angst, consider just how much fun it would be for some sick twit to make up a story and start circulating it just to make her look bad–and if they can irritate you as a secondary effect, so much the better.

My advice would be to ask some other perfectly nice young lady whom you’ve been overlooking as as a potential friend or romance to the prom and try to have a good time.

Sorry, but nobody likes a wimp. If you want her to like you, try acting like someone who won’t “get everything for her”. Didn’t anyone ever tell you that girls love bastards?

As much as people say that, Gary, I really have to disagree…

It sucks. I know. I had, for the past year, watched someone who I deeply cared about drool after someone else who didn’t take his feelings into consideration at all. But I found someone else and I’m so happy now. Light is at the end of the tunnel.

Oh, and by the way, high school sucks. College is much better!

I love it when those so put-upon “nice” men try to speak for the wants and needs of all women.

Only emotionally stunted women who have no idea that an equal relationships exist want to be abused by “bastards.” The rest of us are perfectly happy with a nice guy who will treat us right and allow us to treat them right in return.

Please refrain from assuming what all women want. That makes you the kind of bastard that even the flakes stay away from.

Whatever, drain. His tactics are working so damned well that “she would rather go with a guy and sell herself than go with me, let me get everything for her”. No-one respects a doormat.

She’s giving a blow job to someone to get him to go to the prom. Do the people who are responding with “Yeah, that really sucks” truly understand how bad a choice of words that is?

Okay, laughing at double entrendrees aside- a serious message to dragon. Give her up.
Yes, I know, damned insensitive of me to say so, and I don’t know how much you feel for her, and it’s easy for me to give such advice, etc., etc., etc.

Unfortunately, life has a very hard lesson for all of us suckled on the silver teat of Hollywood- no matter how much you love someone, nothing guarantees that that love will be requited. Movies tell it very simply- Guy A loves Girl B; Girl B ignores or insults Guy A in her quest for Guy C; Guy C turns out to be a jerk or cad, treats Girl B harshly, Guy A steps in and treats Girl B nicely, suddenly Girl B realizes that Guy A is the one she is meant to be with. A great story, told hundreds of times, and usually complete bullshit.

I’ve been through it. And it doesn’t always work out, and no matter how much you love her, it’s not going to make her love you in return. And the sooner you learn to accept that and move on, the better it’ll be for you. I know it’s a painful and shitty situation. But sticking around, waiting for her to come to her senses is just going to mean more painful and shitty situations later down the road as she continues to ignore you.

Best of luck, man.

John,

Man, thanks alot your last post just reminded of the song “Love Stinks” yea yea Love stinks yea yea. Now I am going to be singing that all day.

And red dude your story makes me think you have been listening to the band “The Offspring” too much. You sound like “sucker with no self esteem.” Great now I am going to be singing that one at lunch too.

I agree with gary women like guys that treat’em like crap(not all Drain bead but most). Why, I have no idea.

Anyway dude I will give you the best advice ever. You can either listen to Nazareth’s “Love Hurts” and feel sorry for yourself or you can do the best thing to get a girl out of your system…get another one. :smiley:

This is so very true. My boyfriend treats me right and I treat him the same. There’s a lot of respect for each other, and he’s a “nice guy”.

I would like to add that a lot of the time, we women don’t know that a guy is a jerk until knowing them very well, so it’s not like we say, “Oh! Look! A jerk! I must go after him!” Love is blind a lot of the time. One friend of mine has a boyfriend who flirts constantly with other girls. He even abandoned her at a football game to go flirt with a former girlfriend. Of course, I thought, “What a fuckface!” but I don’t know him. I’ve only met that side of him. He could be a very nice guy for all I know.

I am only one woman’s opinion. I am not speaking out for all women.

Besides, Dragon, you know there’s a perfectly nice welf who doesn’t live too far away who you could have asked to your homecoming! cough cough

Right, no one respects a doormat. But not being a doormat is hugely different from being an asshole.

I am just getting more pissed off at myself as the night goes by. Dammit, I hate this. I’m gonna go take my antidepressants.

Maybe thats your problem, this chick doesn’t like drug addicts. Just kidding. Good luck, kiddo.

Jabe

From the files of a very bitter friend…
First Corollary of Women:
Given the choice between a nice guy and a jerk, the woman will inevitably choose the jerk.

Those of use claiming to be exceptions to this rule are statistical anomylies (god my spelling is whacked), and may therefore be ignored.