Werewolf a game Part 2 (this time with MAFIA!)

Well I can’t believe how wrong you are about me, and IMO Gadarene.

For a supposed good player you have read this completely and utterly wrong. Frankly I am shocked. Yes I had a lot of people suspicious about me, but I also had BM lynched.

Then I had Zuma killed too.

Unfortunately it seems I was wrong about both of them. Not that I am totally convinced, but then I have never been totally convinced.

I didn’t even use logic on my breadcrumb theory. I just used the only thing we KNEW. Gadarene agreed with me, and is dieing tonight because of it. I am about 98% sure that he is town. This is because I am town, and we seem to be to much on the same page. Plus he posted in that “Reveal your secret” thread in this forum, saying he was a vanilla townie, and dammit! I almost did the same thing!

Oh well, I am pretty sure that I was wrong about BM, Zuma and Pleonast. I have even said this.

I am also pretty sure that the scum are in this list:

Sturmhauke 10 posts
Fretful Porcupine 13 posts
StarvingbutStrong 13 posts
Smitty 13 posts
Hocow 14 posts
Kivvik 14 posts
AguaCheek 18 posts
ArizonaTeach 19 posts

And I urge BM to kill one of them.

This will not contain all of the scum, but I think a good portion are. I don’t think any main players are scum (well maybe JSexton), but yes of course some scum voted on both sides.
Assassinate AguaCheek if Gadarene town
Assassinate well me (Queuing) if he is scum
PS: Suburban Plankton, I don’t think any of us were. I really think all of (with the possible exception of JSexton) are town.

PPS: I know queue has 2 E’s, but I swear Queuing has only 1 (and no mafia) in him.

I’s done decided, if my life ain’ts gonna be a trip for biscuits, I betta ruffle sum featha’s and open my fuckin’ yap. This goose need’s trimmin’ anyways. I’s do it myself, but I never’s bumped nobody yet, and I dont’s want to neitha. I hear them Harlem sunset’s none’s too pretty-like.

Usuallies after work I’ms going over the edge with the rams, but I got’s no sugar to tip a few, what with Vinny’s being low on spinach an’s no mesca neitha. No mazuma, no muggles, wtf do I work for this egg anywayz. So yeahz, people’s r dustin’ out of this dirthole dump faster than I’s cum inside a dame’s box. I’d’s take it on the heal and toe too, but where’s would I go? So like’s I said, I’m’s gonna break my code again, and tells my virgin of things.

Besides, I got’s a feelin’ that I’s headed for tha old wooden kimono. Gonna get zotzed, savvy? I’s more tense than a tomato’s g-string, so before I kick’s the bucket, me might as well put the screws on somebody.

Oh’s yeah, youz know I aint’s no good at that umm… whatcha call it? anal la siss? Yeah’s, that’s it. So dont’s go expectin’ no miracles, got it? I’ll tip my mitt, but it donts hold much. I trusts’ my gut, b/c my head’s too full of shit to make a fuckin’ difference. Besides, people’s been bumpin’ guns more than’s my ex-wife, so who knows what the hell’s goin’ on anymore?
***dropping Mobster language for a bit, as I want to be somewhat clear in this part (diggin’s my own grave? :stuck_out_tongue: )

Aguecheek: ??? He’s playing this game?

ArizonaTeach: Who?

Autolycus: (((If youz cant trust yourself, then who’z can ya trust, eh?)))))

Blaster Master: I didn’t trust him earlier, but now I do. He’s either honest or the Godfather, IMO. Regardless he’s a major player in this drama, so whatever happens to him, solid information will come.

You have to realize that at this point people, we have lots of minor evidence, but IMHO not much of anything major. Sure we can twist words and split hairs, but, page count aside, this is still early in the game and damning evidence is lacking. We can analyze shit all day, but after the huge clusterfuck we just went through, I sincerely doubt we can make much headway until tomorrow. The origin and motive of the clusterfuck is beyond me. I almost agreed with Winston, but then I realized that we’re not in a Hollywood movie. All the Mafia acting together to create a highly visible clusterfuck would make no sense.

What we are doing good is in establishing a set of theories and plans of action. I am highly (foollishly) confident that the deaths tonight will lay the game wide open. Still, I must insist again: trying to solidly prove anyone is anything at this time is like farting on a date. It’s gonna stink, but it doesnt make you a good or bad person. Maybe my opinion just shows how amateur I am, but there you have it.

brewha: I’ms guessing Mafia, but I dunno either way.

chrisk/Jsexton: I think’s he’s mafia, but that’s only based upon my guess of how Chrisk was playing. If chrisk wasn’t in the picture, I would think Jsexton is town, FWIW.

Fern Forest: ???

Flying Cow of Doom: I’m going to guess Mafia. Because it’s OF DOOM, lol.

Fretful Porpentine: ???

Gadarene: I’m fairly sure this is Mafia.

glee: Changing my mind and thinking town here.

hocow: I’m guessing this is the doctor, based on a long string of loose reasoning that I dont want to go into.

Kat: Guessing town.

Kivvik: ???

Lakai: ???

MadTheSwine: ???

Malacandra: Going town.

Menocchio: My Jedi instincts say this is the GF, because life works in funny and poetic ways. I have no other evidence.

MonkeyMensch: Mensch? He’s Jewish! Town.

nesta: ???, guessing town.

pimaspinner: Guessing Mafia.

Pleonast: I want to say mafia, but not sure.

Pygmy Rugger: I want to say mafia, but not sure

Queuing: Mafia ding ding ding ding ding, although that’s purely based on smoke and shadows generated from 15(20?) pages of blathering.

Rysto: Almost positively town.

Smitty: Who the fuck?

StarvingButStrong: People need to post more please…

Storyteller0910: I’m guessing town.

Sturmhauke: Guessing mafia.

Suburban Plankton: Not sure. Should re-read his posts but am too lazy.

Winston Smith: Either mafia or a really dumb townie.

Zuma: I dont know one way or the other, but in any case it will become very clear, very soon.
That leaves a whole lot of people with almost ZERO info. Boo-urns to that.

Bbbbbbring out your dead! We could MAYBE learn something with this info. (I doubt it)

One and Only Wanderers- Dead-Citizen
cowgirl - Dead-Citizen
Dnooman-Dead-Citizen
CaerieD (Detective) - Dead-Citizen
Captain Carrot- Dead-Mason
Enfant Terrible-Lynched

People who I really really wish would post more. Lurking might be their strategy, but again that’s unverifiable.

Sturmhauke 10 posts
Fretful Porcupine 13 posts
StarvingbutStrong 13 posts
Smitty 13 posts
Hocow 14 posts
Kivvik 14 posts
AguaCheek 18 posts
ArizonaTeach 19 posts

A list of all the roles:

Mafia
Godfather (how do we work on this one?)
The Miller (this is a VERY important role that we seem to be ignoring completely)
Cops (1 beat cop left, only useful if he/she survives a long time)
Serial Killer
Vigilante
Masons
The Doctor
Guardian Angel

Ok, that’s all the serious info I have for now, although if you read my roleplaying posts well, you will find clues in those as well. Dinner calls.

[RolePlay-On]

My alderman’s gettin empty-like, so time’s for my spaghetti!

Autolycus, thank you for your intelligible post.

You know, I have posted a 20th post, and this is #21. Why are you lying? WHY ARE YOU LYING? Heh.

I’ve said for quite awhile I don’t like Gadarene, because the post where he said “**ArizonaTeach ** thinks you’re acting weird, zuma” just struck me as wrong, wrong, wrong.

Conjecture: If **Gadarene ** is scum, he obviously knows that zuma and I aren’t. Therefore he was trying to emphasize a rivalry between us. I had mentioned, yes, that **zuma ** was starting to post crazy, which even zuma, to some degree, agrees with. But why point that out like that? To start the seed with a bandwagon against zuma, and when **zuma ** is confirmed townie, to say, “Well, ArizonaTeach is the one that started that bandwagon,” and another townie would be lynched.
Alternately, if **Gadarene ** dies and is confirmed mafia, is someone going to look at that as a breadcrumb and say, “**ArizonaTeach ** and **Gadarene ** were on the same side!”

So, no, I went with **Gadarene ** and have stuck with him. So there you go.

Heeeyy…I called you annoying and unhelpful way back on like page 5. Acknowledge my insult! *(shakes fist) * Acknowledge me!

You iz welcome :stuck_out_tongue:

I have a few things to do before I can really review the thread for a good alternate target, and I might not even get a chance to tonight. I see a number of people are advocating Blaster Master unconditionally lynch Winston Smith. I think not giving Blaster Master a condition could be a big mistake. If the Gadarene lynch catches one scum, I think the chances are very high that Queuing is also scum. They’ve defended each other over and over, almost like the tag-team was or became their plan. I want to get my vote in for a conditional Vig kill before it’s too late.

Gadarene is scum: Blaster Master kills Queuing. Gadarene isn’t scum: Blaster Master kills Winston Smith.

I’ll try to get a quick review in before bed to make sure I mistrust Winston Smith more than the alternatives, but I feel we must have a conditional.

Ok, I am gone for the rest of this “day” I quoted my last post count. It SHOULD be accurate.

I will try to post the lynch tonight, but it will be up by 9am my time at the latest.

Talk strategy all you want for the next 7 hours and 15 minutes, hell I wouln’t be surprised if in that time you guys change your minds again. But if you don’t, come 1am pst (thats 4am eastern) consider it night time. Give the mob a chance to retreat to their boards, and the rest of you can hang at the bar.

Well, I’m caught up in my reading assignment. But I’m a little confused as to the current test format for our alleged Vig. Someone’s getting lynched today, and then **Master Blaster ** gets to go out into the night to prove himself. I assume that the Millers and the Doc are staying out of it. Especially the Doc, now that there are people of value worth protection.

My confusion is this: is there just one test victim for the Vig or two victims tied to the outcome of the lynchee’s identity. It seems like people are mixed on this, and as this is an opportunity for some solid info it would be nice if we’re all agreed on the format.

I may have missed something obvious and a clear consensus of procedure might be staring me in the face. But I’m ready to vote and just want to vote once and only once, trying to avoid roiling the murk that seems to be settling in.

sobs quietly in the corner

I’m not going back and doing any cites on this post, because my head is thisclose to exploding…

My reactions to today’s reveals were:
(1) Damn, damn, damn…I was sure that Pleonast was Mafia.
(2) Hmmm, okay, based on the discussion, zuma seems the next likely suspect…damn! He’s a mason, too!

So, I had some suspicion on Day One of Smitty and MadTheSwine, but they haven’t really done much to create more (but neither have they done anything to alleviate any–wake up you two! Don’t make me poke you with a stick).

I don’t wanna vote for Gadarene, basically cuz I just don’t feel like he’s Mafia. Besides, it’d be like kicking a dead puppy.

Maybe I should just go use random.org now.

I’m gonna unvote Pleonast and vote for…um…MadTheSwine. Like it matters, I’m pretty sure the day’s result is set in stone by now.

Holy fuck. I didn’t get a chance to read this all day, and now look what’s happened. And I only logged on to see who’d been lynched. Not that it’ll make any difference, but if someone wants my vote, vote Queuing. Would it kill you to copy and paste my name rather than fargle it up like that? :wink:

I’d rather I not get SK’d or BM’d :eek: tonight; so please don’t. I don’t think that’d be a good idea in the long run.

Wait a minute! Hold the phone, stop the presses, nobody leave the room!

**Gadarene **posted what? where?

(does a quick search, and finds the referenced post)

To me, this means either

a) Gadarene is Mafia, hoping that we will read this and be thrown off by his “revelation”, or
b) He is a stupid townie, who doestn’t know when to keep his mouth shut.

Either way, I do know that

c) It’s definitely against the spirit, in not actually the letter, of the law.

So the only question is; which is the greater sin? Breaking the rules by posting “secrets” in another thread, or “telling” on someone for doing so?

Based upon absolutely nothing but what I’ve said in this post, I vote to
lynch Gadarene.

I know, it’s a moot point, but what the hell…

As for who the Vigilante should kill, I have no opinion. I am not convinced that Blaster Master is the Vigilante. He could just as easily be the SK. And I really don’t want to get caught up in the whole “if he’s good, lynch her, but if he’s bad, lynch him, and if they both turn out ok, lynch the other guy” trend.

Let the nighttime folks do what they will, and we’ll clean it up in the morning.

If we ever get there.

Revenge votes are baaaaaaaaaaaaad, Aguecheek.

:smiley:

S’pose if everyone voted for “AguaCheek,” I could off on a technicality?

Dear god. I posted here just before I left for work. That was #1261 on page 26.

I hurried home, cooked and served a quickie meal, left hubby to clean up and raced to the computer…to find the latest post is 1531 on page 31.

That’s 270 posts I need to read. Over 5 full pages! :eek:

Don’t any of you have, oh, jobs you actually have to work at???

And…when I left, we seemed to have settled on lyching Queuing, and I proposed a giving BM conditional orders. On skimming just this last page, suddenly Gadarene is at 15 votes???

What the hell happened? <sigh> I know, I know. Read the 270 posts.

And by the time I’m through them, there’ll probably be another two hundred.
I’m starting to think there is just no way I can effectively play in this game.

:dubious:

Hey he SAID please :stuck_out_tongue:

Vote Queuing.

Autolycus,

thanks for a better post.
(Also please note that the Mafia type language is not popular!)

unvote Queueing
lynch Garadene

Vig, if Garadene is Mafia, please off Queueing.
If Garadene is Town, please off Winston Smith.

Sez you :smiley:

Really? Posting in this thread breaks rules?

Really? What rule does this break? It wasn’t the forbidden thread, it was just another thread.

Anyway, I just thought it was funny, and I wasn’t tattling. I was using it as yet another example of Gadarene and I being on the same page. So much so that it is like we have had somewhere else to talk. We haven’t though. Its just some weird coincidence.

Also, thanks for the post Autolycus. I don’t mind you being in character, but that was helpful. I agree that those people whom you listed (as did I) need to post more.

Aguecheek, sorry. If you have any idea how many times I have almost called you AQuecheek,…changing vowels is better right?

Glee did you mean this:

unvote Queuing
lynch Gadarene
Anyway, thats it. I will check again it the morning.

RIP Gadarene