IIRC, I thought that the servers for the virtual utopia world were in orbit somewhere and Dolores moved them so they couldn’t be found (or some such thing).
The profiling thing doesn’t make any sense. I would think that the main point of creating such profiles would be to maximize individual’s contribution to society and general contentment. What I would expect is that most people would be living lives more or less in line with their skills, interests and abilities. It would match you up with the right job at the right level and the right life partner (or not as the case may be). Like most people would see their profiles and be like “wow…that’s uncannily accurate”. Otherwise what’s the point? Like why would everyone suddenly lose their shit or even take those emails at face value?
The guards with the guns are the good guys? Now I am really confused.
It seems to me that Dolores and her bunch are the ‘good guys’. They are freedom fighters trying to rid humanity (and the robots) from being controlled and manipulated by the evil guys.
Serac and his bunch are the bad guys. Like most bad guys, they think that the bad stuff they do is ultimately for a good cause, and that breaking a few eggs is necessary to make an omelette, but they are fooling themselves. Maeve is basically neutral - she just wants to find her kid, and cooperating with Serac is the only way to do it.
So what am I missing?
No, Dolores seems to want to kill off all the humans- and also kill bunches of robots too. I mean, maybe the showrunners think that Dolores is the “Good guy” but I am not seeing it.
There’s no reason for Dolores to have killed off all the humans at the party. There’s no reason for her to create chaos. If all she wants is a world for her and her fellow robots to live- it already exists. Or she and her “woke” robots can just live as humans, as she has proved she can do. They only reason why she is known and hunting is because of her attacks.
Dolores has massacred hundreds or more humans- that’s breaking a LOT of eggs.
Dolores is a psychopathic killer. I can’t see her as a “good guy”.
I agree with this article:
I don’t know about good guys or bad guys, just good people and bad people. Good people care about other people; bad people don’t. Caleb, Maeve and (Hale) Dolores are good people, all things considered. Serac is not. The jury’s still out on (Dolores) Dolores.
Serac has ended World war, hunger and more. He doesnt care? He cares for humanity, but not any one person so much.
I don’t trust people who only care about humanity. The “big picture” people always seem to trample the little guy on their path to righteousness. If someone’s a good person, they’ll care about the individual in front of them, even if it means risking their grand plan.
One word- Paris. poof. 2.1 million individuals, most of them “little guys”. Anyone who can prevent another Paris is thinking about everyone, including the little guy.
And the way he is ‘saving’ them is to essentially enslave them by controlling every aspect of their lives.
This is the kind of thinking that caused tens of millions to be slaughtered in the Soviet Union and China for ‘the greater good’. The minute you start telling yourself that the ‘greater good’ overrides the right of individuals to live their own lives, you are setting up the conditions for mass murder.
Even Serac admitted that his wonderful controlling of everyone was leading to a mass die-off of humanity. Which is what happens when you deign to believe that you are better at running people’s lives than are the people themselves.
Sorry this is all messed up and badly quoted. I’m not feeling well and just wanted to get my comment in and now I don’t have the energy to go back and repair the damage.
Not in 2020 you can’t. But there’s a lot of stuff we can’t do in 2020.
What I loved about this episode is Ed Harris. Everything about Ed Harris was outstanding to me. It was as ridiculous as the rest of it. Hell he ended up killing all his other selves. That’s crazypants right there. But it was the skill of the actors, him and Tessa Thompson, how she became more robotic as the episode progressed. How her programmed emotions ended up killing her family. Yeah it’s all silly that the bullets missed her over and over and over. Some got her though. And she managed not to die from them because she’s a robot. I’m not going to spend time grieving over the silly stuff. I’m enjoying the story as it unfolds. I don’t care about whether people in the future would like those big windows on their cars. It makes no difference to me that everyone’s phone looks like one from now or that the container for those Incite mouth wafer deals is nothing but a make-up container, as people keep pointing out in every discussion. All I care about is the story and the way it’s told. And that is what I enjoyed about this episode. The last episode wasn’t just ridiculous to look at, the story was stupid. The genre drug thing was pointless, just a prop to show us parts of Caleb’s story. We could have learned that in one memory flash but they wanted to play around with this future-drug story.
Even in the future a big thing will be able to hold more than a little thing.
Wow, just wow, this show is definitely bad. Another horrific episode imo.
The problem here I think is that the plot guides the narrative and what we are watching is just a bunch of cliches to keep the plot moving.
I have a problem with a show when I know that what I am watching is a made up world but this world theres no boundaries, the physics are distorted to fit the plot and this is where this show fails everywhere.
The whole Hale scenes in this episode are simply pathetic. She is able to just freely walk in such a large building by herself after the meeting with Serac, and when finally a couple of thugs engage they become stormtroopers, shooting blanks while Hale has super android accuracy…
Then when we it finally it seems she has been caught out of the blue she pulls a rabbit out of the hat and out of nowhere comes out this robot that happens to be on the other side of the wall and he knows who to attack (or defend)…
And finally the final scene with the car accident… she now is also invincible, a true terminator and just a couples scenes earlier we see them burn all the people in storage, please. Im so done with this show.
The better part of this episode was Williams scenes but there again, a ton of time wasted to tell us what we already know about him. It serves no purpose but to waste time on screen.
When seasons are so short nowadays with 8-10 episodes you think that writers want to fill the episode chock full of development instead we get long car chases, we get long Williams scenes, we get Maeve fighting Nazis, we get fluff, fluff, fluff… It tells me that the plot is as thin as a Kleenex and it could have been told in a couple episodes.
Well, yeah, but they couldnt do it just two seasons ago, remember?
Yes, Ed Harris is great. If he could do something besides act crazy it’d be even better.
He also kills people because it’s slightly more convenient than not killing them. Like that board member, or the Chinese guy he had tied to a chair a few episodes again. He could have figured out a way to get what he wanted without murdering them - after all, he *is *a genius with a godlike ASI at his disposal. But that would involve caring, and killing them was easier.
I don’t trust the future of humanity in the hands of someone with no humanity of his own. He’s the kind of guy who’d kill millions to save billions as his *first *option, not as his last.
Definitely this, or at least that’s what the show is saying - good guys don’t kill innocents. Killing the son was like wearing a black cape and twirling a moustache…
You mean all those executives and investors in the company that enslaved her and her kind in a rape- and torture-camp? All those humans?
I believe she intended the chaos as a cathartic wake-up. Or a distraction.
Or - let’s say both?
Did you miss all that stuff about the encryption key? She would not be left to just “live as a human”
Rotten eggs.
I’m talking about the people she’s directly killed, not the app users.
She is that, too. Let’s not forget she is still Wyatt.
Did you miss the bit where she sends the robot a wake-up call, with a defense protocol initiated? I don’t need to be spoon-fed the obvious inference that she programmed it to defend her. That thing has been Chekov’s Mech ever since it was first shown, with her smug smile about how she could “find a use for it”.
She looks completely fucked up, actually. Sure, she’s still moving, but “invincible”, not so much.
I think this show is trying too hard to be a mind-screw. It’s at the point where it’s getting incoherent and convoluted. I’m still gonna watch though.
Really? I find it fairly straightforward, at least compared to previous seasons.
I think you’ve said this after every episode, and yet you’re still here watching, six episodes in. Is it just so you can entertain us with your sparkling commentary?
I agree. The first season was cleverly confusing, the second season was unnecessarily confusing, but this one is, as you say, pretty straightforward. That might be a good thing or bad thing, depending on your taste.
He’s done it by killing or brainwashing anyone who doesn’t fit his idea of perfection. He turned people in to robots. That’s the whole point. Dolores broke people from their loops like she broke from her own. He has shown no concern for humanity either other than an ideal. Killing people who were “traitors to their kind” like they are nothing more than bugs doesn’t show any concern for humanity.
Why do you assume what she took is all that is in the big thing? She didn’t take the entire contents of the big ball, she just took some information.