What would you do if this were your father?

Where to begin. My father and I don’t have much of a relationship. I posted a little about it in another thread a few days ago, and really thought I was ok with things the way they are, but then I got a phone call from him today and now I don’t know quite what to do.

I guess I’ll start off with a little background info. My mother was very abusive towards both my brothers and me, but especially me as I was a constant reminder that my dad had had an affair. (I was named after the woman my father had an affair with when my mom was pregnant with me.) When I was four, my dad came home once when my mom was punishing me for something or other and they wound up getting in a huge fight which ended with my dad leaving and my brother (only had one at the time), and I being placed in foster care.

My parents had this on-going love-hate relationship, and wound up getting together and breaking up numerous times. Their relationships with us kids were very similar. Sometimes we’d live with my mom, sometimes, with both parents, and sometimes we’d be in foster care or living with other relatives. It was all very chaotic, and I always felt it was my fault. I know, logically, that it wasn’t, but kids don’t typically form opinions based on logic.

Eventually, after I was married and out of the house, my father left my mother once and for all, taking custody of my youngest (then 15) brother. Shortly after my brother turned 18, but before he was out of high school, my father gave him a run-down trailer, $1000, and a truck before moving to another city. He then proceeded to move here and there and somewhere else without informing any of us of his whereabouts. I’d try and track him down through relatives to find that he’d been in Alabama but wasn’t there anymore, etc. etc. through several states.

Finally, almost ten years since we’d heard from him, he contacted my older brother, who then gave the rest of us his e-mail and address. I e-mailed him, we talked a few times, and then we met last year. He was in Alabama visiting relatives and I went to see him. We had a nice enough day together but when I woke up in the morning, he’d left. We did stay in e-mail contact though. In February, I was planning a trip which would take me within two hours of him. I e-mailed and asked if he’d like to get together. He declined, saying that he was too busy and didn’t have time. This past summer, he drove up to see me, driving 1800 miles only to leave after 7 hours. In all of our contacts, I’ve been careful not to question him about his disappearance or to make him feel guilty for abandoning us. I wanted that to be in the past and for us to build a future relationship together, so the reason he left each time we met wasn’t due to a disagreement, though I don’t know what it was.

Anyway, he called me around September or so asking if I’d consider moving to Oklahoma, where he was currently living. He said he’d buy a trailer for me and put it on his property so that we could spend time together. I declined, because nice as Oklahoma may be, it isn’t exactly a hub of biochemistry. He then told me that he was sure I could get a job at a convenience store there, nevermind the fact that I’m a very competent, respected, and happy researcher in my chosen field. (He feels that the only careers which are acceptable for women are nursing, teaching, and sales, but that’s another story.)

OK, fast forward to October. Unbeknownst to us kids, he once again moved. No forwarding address, e-mail account closed, none of the relatives had a clue as to where he may have moved to. After my brother called and told me he’d moved and couldn’t be found, I basically decided screw it. I’m not going to spend the rest of my life searching for someone who doesn’t want me in his.

But this morning, I got a phone call from him. He wants to come spend Christmas with me. I’m very torn by this. Stupid as it sounds, there’s still a part of me that wants his approval and acceptance very much. At the same time, I don’t want to open myself up to even more rejection from him. What would you do?

Your father sounds like he has…issues, to say the least. Whether or not you chose to let him spend Christmas with you, the main thing I think you need to do–as hard as it is–is not expect too much from him. He obviously can’t be the father everyone wants and deserves. He has shown you that time and time again. So you need to decide if you can accept him on his own terms. Yes, that’s unfair. Yes, you deserve a father you can depend on, who will love and accept you. But, unfortunately, that is not the father you (or I, which is why I feel I can give this advice) got. Can you take the bits of attention he gives and recognize that they are all he is capable of? If so, maybe you can see him and not feel rejected. If not, if you will always long for more, you might be better off without him. Neither way is right or wrong, by the way. You just have to decide for you.

With my father, it was a matter of thinking that he was just a very flawed person and that what love he could give me was what love he could give me. It was sort of like not expecting a nice present, because he couldn’t afford it. Some people just can’t be the kind of person they should be. Unfair, but we can’t change them.

I hope whatever decision you make brings you peace.

It’s completely understandable that you would want acceptance and approval from him–he’s your father, after all. But I agree with Brynda in that if you decide to spend Christmas with him, you have to be willing to accept that he might disappear again.

I’m very concerned with the effects his coming-and-going are having on YOU. It must be very emotionally draining. You’ve said that you’ve been careful to avoid questioning him about his disappearances–is it because you’re afraid it will destroy the chance for a future relationship? What’s really destroying the chance for a future relationship is his inability to see how this is affecting you. Perhaps it’s time to sit down with your father and let him know. I’m not suggesting that you give him an ultimatum or completely cut him out of your life, but if this were my father, I would want him to know that he can’t just show up whenever he feels like it and expect that I wouldn’t feel somewhat torn.

Best of luck in whatever you decide to do.

You sound to me like you have a good nose for dealing with this. The choices you’ve made so far sound appropriate, if on occasions painful. That’s a pretty fair achievement. That being said…

I didn’t quite get your last para. I doubt you’re being set up for “even more rejection” from him. To me, he sounds like a man who didn’t cope at all at the time and doesn’t quite understand the paucity of what he can offer now.

It seems to me that he’s a broken man asking for your acceptance, but that you don’t quite see it that way. I think you should accept that you’re his successful daughter. After that, I think you should offer him what contact you feel doesn’t threaten you.

Change your phone number, and get a rubber stamp that says “Moved, return to sender” for the mail.

Your father is obviously using you for his emotional benefit. The fact that he’s moving around constantly without letting you know where he is, proves it. Its never easy maintaining relationships, and he likely knows that and has taken the path of least resistance.

Basically you’re his “booty call” whenever he wants a pickup. If I were you I’d just tell him that he won’t have to bother contacting me again whenever the urge strikes him.

But thats just me.

Another vote to nix the reunion.

You’ve obviously grown up.
Now it’s his turn.

Is it convenient for you to have him over for Christmas? If not, say no. Keep the lines of communication with him open, but he has done nothing to show that he deserves to have you bend over backwards for him to accomodate him.

Why do people have kids and then make their life a living hell? I feel for you, very much. Of course you want some sort of relationship with him, he’s your father. You sound very stable for what you’ve gone through. What makes me angry is how your parents only seemed to care for their own problems and not their childrens’ feelings. I really cannot stand to hear about parents who have kids and then abuse/neglect them.

I’d say that HE has to make the effort and not you. You’ve done everything you could have to form a relationship and he’s always gotten out of being a real father. He has something to prove to you and your brothers. I’d let him know how much he and your mother have hurt you over the years. Why be nice anymore? Let some of these pent up feelings out and stop letting him walk all over you.

They have quite a few issues, your parents. It’s time to heal, it’s time to get this off your chest and help yourself. Good luck and I wish you the best in your life.

You’re right; you wanting his “approval” and “acceptance” does sound stupid. Why do you feel you owe the man who fathered you anything? Both your parents–but especially your father-- sound like selfish, emotionally cruel people, with no concept or concern for how their actions affect the rest of their family. Why, after all both of them have put you through, do you persist in thinking they care more about you than they care about themselves? It is manifestly not true.
If I were you, I would get on the phone and tell your father that this is his LAST chance to act both like a normal father and a normal ADULT.
I suspect your father’s contact(s) with you are motivated either by old guilt or a new fear of growing old alone. Either way, you owe him very little, if anything. Don’t let him manipulate your emotions using notions of “family” that he never honored himself.

RIGHT ON, LIZARD! (much applause!)

Despite ourselves we have expectations of our parents that do not always correlate with reality. And we think that if our parents don’t love us, who could? After all no one but mom and dad have that biological bond. But, if you have ever observed parents of adopted children, they love them as much as biological children; which shows me it isn’t the blood tie, but the emotional tie that binds us to others in that special way. Your parents are emotionally stunted; even if given ultimatums they will never be able to respond. They aren’t capable of it. If it were possible for you to completely overlook your fathers emotional abuse of you, maybe you could carry on seeing him whenever he dictates the terms. But most of us wouldn’t be able to do that. He set you up when he offered you the trailer close to him; he knew you would refuse and now you have one more thing to feel guilty for and it binds you to him in an escalating pattern of emotional abuse. You may think it would be hard to just move on and get him out of your life, but you would do this with anyone who is a toxic influence in your life; don’t get hung up on him being the sperm donor. My vote is for you to move on, investing your energy in your own emotional growth. You don’t say if you are married, but it is common for people who have to overcome childhood abuse to develop a support group with friends and a spouse and children that can replace failed parents quite well. AND don’t get hung up on the Christmas thing. This man knows how to play all the cards. So, say dad I’m sorry but we both have to move on and unfortunately that doesn’t include our having a relationship. I wish you well. Goodbye.

Ya know I used to think like you. Always willing to work things out with my bio-dad.( he beat mom and left when I was just a toddler)…

Then I had a son of my own and I realized that I couldn’t possibly bond with some one who is capable of doing such things. I mean I couldn’t even fathom anything that closely resymbles that.
Fuck’m I say he’s just a defect in the bloodline anyway.

My SO has a bad relationship with his father too. His father was a complete ass, very abusive towards my SO’s mother (to the point where SO called the cops on his dad).

After the father split from the mom (when SO was young) there was a long time that they didn’t speak (the father tried a few times, and his mom encouraged him to have a relationship with his father, but SO was too angry with him. Who can blame him?)

After a few years, SO decided to re-establish some sort of relationship. His father seemed to have changed: for he is in his third marriage at the moment, and he has been treating his wife well; never laid a hand on her.

In any case, SO tried and tried but his father turned out to still being a complete asshole to him. Finally he decided to ‘fuck-it’, not care emotionally anymore towards this man, and only talk to him on rare occasions.

It was/is the best solution for SO’s emotional well being.

I hope you make the best decisions for yourself in this matter.

If it is emotionally wrenching for him to come to your home for Christmas, don’t let him. Make it clear that Christmas is very important and you don’t want him ruining it for your family. If he can’t understand this, tell him you just don’t want to put up with his insecurity and childishness right now. When/if he straightens up and matures emotionally, this might change. But for now, he needs to stay away. You are not here to be his crutch.

Thanks y’all. I’m still not quite sure what I’m going to do, but it’s nice to have all the input. Thanks again!

I would say have him over if he wants to come for Christmas, but don’t expect him to stay long.

Or anything more from the relationship than you already have. I would say his pattern is pretty well established.
God be with you no matter what you decide.

Regards,
Shodan