Obviously your experience with this population is limited if you have not once realized there is a huge segment of it that does not wish to be associated with modern connotations of Iran, for a variety of reasons.
I teach many students with roots in that country, and if I ever hear ethnicity discussed among my students (it’s a very cosmopolitan school, so it comes up fairly regularly), they invariably describe themselves as Persian.
This isn’t the first time I’ve noticed the usage of Persian in lieu of say, Iranian-American. Is there something to this observation? I’m wondering if people think it’s cooler to say “I’m Persian” rather drawing attention to their country of origin.
Really, I didn’t think of that. :smack: Thanks. Thanks so much for schooling me on this cultural nuance.
Now that you have, would you like to know what I think? Hmm?
Tough. I don’t like to be associated with many of the things American, culturally or politically, as of late. But it isn’t an option to pretend I’m something else.
Can’t really help you. Every Iranian girl I know dislikes Iranian guys. And if this person’s an avowed atheist, chances are she’s not a slave to family tradition. This an engaged girl problem, not a Persian girl problem.
I’m somewhat surprised how supportive everyone is of someone trying to “liberate that ass” of someone who’s engaged, regardless of cultural background or how the OP perceives that relationship.
The OP said she gave the ring back. It sounds like she doesn’t want to be in the engagement.
I suspect there is no chance for a relationship; according to the OP there has been plenty of oppurtunity, and if she really wanted to move out of the failed engagement and move towards the OP, she would have.
Maybe the attitude embodied in the ‘liberate that ass’ phrasing is part of the roadblock for the OP.
Or maybe as in Post #4, she’s just not that into the OP.
When my husband was in college, he dated a Persian girl. It wasn’t a big romance, but he enjoyed going out with her, and they remained friends for many years. The secret to his success: he learned a little bit of Farsi.
He said she gave the ring back at least once. Maybe the OP can clear this up, but I was under the impression they are still engaged but have had some rough patches. I don’t expect that anyone trying to pursue someone already in a relationship is going to say that their relationship is doing well. How else would he be ‘liberating’ her?
No, we hang out randomly because she’s engaged, and she knows I’m interested. We also do business on occasion.
It’s just a vibe, I dunno. I’ve gotten it before but never from a woman I wanted quite this badly. It’s truly bumming me out.
Totally. She says she’d never date an Arab and her fiance is, properly speaking, Syrian rather than Persian. Apparently her mother doesn’t approve of him on that basis alone.
On preview, nevermind.
I know, everyone keeps saying this! But I know Persian guys who hunt blondes for marriage like crazy, and I’m just trying to pull some sort of gender exchange program here. Do the guys that score blondes get thrown off the island or something?
No idea, but I hadn’t really thought about that angle. I guess there’s a chance she could be, it has never come up but I suppose I should check. I’ll drop Freddie Mercury’s name next time we grab a coffee.
That’s the sound of my withered heart breaking. Maybe I can ramp up the bling? Buy more stuff with logos? Is there anyway to compensate for being wonderbread?
Ok, yeah, I think it’s safe to say the OP doesn’t actually say things like that to actual real live girls. And in truth, I’ve known her long enough and am comfortable enough with her that if I did say it, she’d think it was funny in an inept playa kind of way. So for purposes of this discussion, let’s assume I’ve passed Talking to Girls 101.
Try to feign a higher level of interest in her. You know, pretend she’s a real person, that sort of thing. Remember, nothing gets on woman on her back with her legs behind her ears faster than if you can fool her into thinking you actually respect her as a person.
I don’t know but if you all figure it out, PM me with it. I’m pretty sure I was put on this earth to marry Shaghayegh (Iranian pop star who now lives in LA, as Claudia Lynx)
Sorry, you’re SOL. Persian girls have psychic powers. That’s what sets them apart; they’re kinda unique that way. She knows you just want to work her sweet Farsi meat-garden with your man-plough, and she’s having fun playing with you. On the other hand, if you can fill your mind with thoughts of her body draped in endless chains of gold finery, you might be able to distract her, and thus have a shot at spearing that bitch. Give it a try and report back.