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What? Me no compr…ohhhhh. You’re winking at me. YES. I UNDERSTAND. Everyone, allow me to translate. Marley23 is saying that an irrational racist condescension is mildly superior in some way to an irrational racist vilification. It doesn’t make it okay, but he does “understand” it. Wink wink. You see, it’s WHITE CODE for why he thinks white people and black people should be treated a little differently. Not alot differently, but, you know, a little.
How did I know this?
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Oooh, ooh, I know - it’s because you have the magical power to pull large objects out of your ass? If so, you must be, like, the David Copperfield of ass. Have you got a spare yacht up there by chance?
Here’s the actual deal, if you’re interested in finding out what I’m think rather than searching for a way to “win” by concluding that I’m a racist. (Because, if you remember, this is about groups and not race, which I tried to emphasize by my repeated references to gays, who can belong to any race, as well as the more jokey reference to polka lovers and vegetarians, and the comment about Jews Asians and women. Race is one kind of group but people have always been separated into an endless number of groups.)
Did you read those posts, by the way? I saw you posted earlier, but you seem to have put all your energy into making up names to call people instead of reading for comprehension. Does that save time?
With regard to race, I think everybody’s equal and race is a social delusion. I don’t believe in treating people differently based on what they look like, or what their gender or orientation is. This clears up the statement “it’s ridiculous to be proud of something that really has nothing to do with you, and which you didn’t achieve in any way,” right? Good. I know that wasn’t the complicated part, so…
Here’s the thing that apparently got me into hot water: while I think these accidents of birth are a ridiculous thing to be proud of, I’m also willing to be sympathetic to people’s circumstances. You can call that condescending if you want to be wrong and a douchebag, but condescending is about expecting less from people. I don’t have lower standards for other people, but I do try to understand that different people have different experiences. That’s why I made the effort to explain that I understand why some women, or gays, or black people, and so on, take pride in belonging to those groups. It’s not because I think less of them, it’s because I know they have experiences regarding discrimination that I, with a few really tiny exceptions, have not.
You, and some other people on this board in my experience, are making a virtue of holding everybody to the same standard without sympathy and without regard to the things that make people different. I think that’s a bad idea- although it does lead to lots of great chances moral posturing and condemning people. Yummy! Everyone else is SOOO stupid! Equality shouldn’t be confused with sameness, and I’ve got no particular desire to hold everybody in the world to the same standards I try to hold myself to. They get along fine without my judging them, and they don’t give a fuck what I think, so what’s the point?
You can “Say It Loud! (I’m Black and I’m Proud)” and “The Turner Diaries” commit the same offense of dividing people by race and that they are morally indistinguishable, but I wouldn’t say that, because I’d sound like a flaming moron. You sound like you have a different take on that. I hope you’re enjoying being an idiot. Especially since you managed to boil down everything I said to being about race when it clearly never was. I only mentioned gays about half a dozen times. Apparently you think they’re invisible. 
