Who do you want to win Survivor?

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Well, I also follow survivorsucks.com, and if the people there are right, (which they have been the last 5 weeks), and from some photographic proof I’ve seen, the alliance will DEFINITELY break down, and…only one of the Tagi Alliance makes it to the final four. (Won’t ruin who)

BTW, I hope Gervase wins. It’s not about working, it’s a paid vacation. The people who think it’s about busting your ass are missing the point. Sure, you need to have shelter and food, but that’s working out great. What’s Gervase supposed to do, learn to spearfish? He can’t even swim well. That said…I think he’s a nice guy. Hope he wins. (and perhaps the GervaseX theory is correct.)

Jman

I want Jenna to win, then I want her to come and pick me up at my office, and whisk me away to the back of a Suzuki and show me her pert lil’ boobies all night, and then we could go have threesomes with her hot friends.

She would continue to work, and I would kick back at the mansion with cold beer, the cubbies on WGN, and all of her sexxxy girlfriends at my disposal.

Wait, this wasn’t the Survivor Fantasy thread?

Darva Conger.

I mean, she’s a finalist, and actually has a chance to marry that multi-millionaire now, right?

Or am I thinking of Jeopardy?

NothingMan: I was thinking that might have been what Greg meant, but wasn’t sure. It seemed too easy. :slight_smile:

Jman: The clips from last week’s show for this week’s show indicate that Kelly may be breaking out of the alliance. I think she’d be stupid to do so, but there are plenty of stupid people on that island. Also, I don’t trust the clips because they are always taken out of context to make the next show look much more interesting. For example, the clips for this past week (which were shown the week before) showed Richard asking, “OK, so who voted for me last week?” in what appeared to be a fighting way. In fact, he had just caught fish and was joking around. But it was more interesting to see it out of context.

If the alliance does break up, I’m going to go into conspiratorial mode and wonder if the show’s producers had anything to do with it (off-camera, obviously). It’s bad enough that the host asks the alliance members about the alliance in front of all the other people, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the staff figured it wouldn’t be as interesting if the alliance stayed together and just picked off the rest.

Following on that, and I think I’ve mentioned it before, I really am annoyed that the host doesn’t keep his yap shut at Tribal Council. If they are playing this up as the people on the island making the decisions, then he should just shut up and let them do it.

I agree completely. I think one of the luxury challenges should be for the right to beat the crap out of him.

Or Richard could spear him (with the spear, not what you were thinking!) and they could use him for bait!

Hey everyone. To tell you the truth, I didn’t really show much interest in this show at first, but ya know…huge media events have a way of creeping up on you. Anyway, the first ep I saw was the day of the big merge (#7, I believe). It’s pretty compelling, even if the “survival” aspects are more implied than real.

I think most of the criticism (of which I’ve heard justified once or twice, at the very most) stems from the fact that a lot of this hits too close too home. I mean, we’d like to believe that our society is always civil and polite and altruistic etc., and every time that illusion is broken, it rubs us the wrong way. (In high school, this was pretty much a daily occurence for me. :() It’s unsettling to hear…Kelly, was it? Or maybe Susan…state pretty bluntly that no one’s out to make friends, that it’s a cutthroat contest, but much more so to know that we’d do exactly the same thing if we were in that position.

Anyway, as for my favorite to win it all…I don’t have one. I wish I had some clue, but after the week 7 bombshell I don’t think anyone is safe. Gervase, he has a slim chance, but I just don’t see an admitted beach bum winning, no matter how charming.

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You betcha it was fake! I forgot to mention this before, and I apologize for it.

When he was walking off, you can hear him say something like “I don’t need anything! Except this.”

He was quoting Navin R. Johnson, Steve Martin’s character in The Jerk. Fitting title for Greg, to be sure.

Ok, I was wrong about Jenna. If the previews for next week are to be believed, Kelly and Sue are gona break off and vote against Richard. We shall see.

Sean is a freakin moron. Take a stand dammit ! He contributed directly to getting Jenna thrown off, with that weak “I don’t think this is gonna make a difference blah blah blah smegma.” If only Sue had pissed him off enough by saying all that stuff about him “having no balls” (which is true) - maybe Sean would have voted for her . . . leaving a tie between Jenna and Rich ! Then what would have happened ?? Anybody know what they do in the event of a tie ?

Heh, I think it’s great that Sean was the swing vote. You could tell by his face that he felt like an idiot – and well he should! He knew there was a voting bloc, and he was making it known who he was voting for. So they made him the swing vote, the dummy!

I do have to say that Richard isn’t looking good. Three votes against him already (though one was from Jenna) and Sue making that remark for next week about getting rid of him. I think she’s more Machiavellian than he is!

And, I gotta say, he isn’t acting nearly as smart as he did before. I think the power has gone to his head. He seemed to think he had a lock and could do whatever the hell he damn well pleased. Well, if that involves pissing people off, it doesn’t work that way, Rich. He needs to smarten up.

I may have to switch my vote to Rudy. I just think he’s pretty funny. But with the way things are going, I can see how Gervase could indeed be the winner. Right now, it’s a “don’t piss anybody else off” contest.

I couldn’t agree more.

Big mistake trying to blackmail everyone with his fishing abilities, and then flaunting his ugly naked body just to make an entirely irrelevant point.

Just goes to show how a perfectly good Melancholy primary temperament can be submarined by a secondary Sanguine temperament. (He just had to win the pissy little battles, thereby losing the war.)

I think Sean was the swing vote that got Greg kicked off, too, wasn’t he? It was a “G” week and Gervase had immunity…?

I like Sean a lot, but he needs to use his noggin. The alliance is taking out people with his help - whether it’s intentional or not - and he needs to come up with a new strategy (like picking a name at random out of a hat) and keeping his mouth shut.

That being said, I like Sean, I like Gervase, and I like Susan. I can’t stand Richard or Rudy because they are arrogant pricks.

I guess I want Susan to win because she probably needs the money the most and she’s pretty darn smart, without the arrogance of Richard or the grumpiness of Rudy.

I was so hoping that Richard would be booted last night. Can’t stand that arragont prick. (“I decide who stays and who goes.” “The reason I’m still here is because I’m smarter than everyone else.” “Alliance? What alliance? I don’t know what you’re talking about.”)

Actually, he’s an idiot. There’s no way he’ll win when it comes down to the end when he will need the votes of the recently banished. All they have to do is view the clips (and you know CBS will show them), showing his patronizing attitude. What surprises me is that it took the others so long to figure out they should vote him off.

Hey, don’t be fooled by the trailers for next week’s episode. The fact that CBS is strongly hinting that Rich will be waxed next week is indication enough for me that it won’t be him to go.

Sean is a total idiot.

Now, I believe Gervaise will win. At first I didn’t like his lazy ass, but now he seems the least conniving. He may be laid back, but he’s not dumb. He’ll get the votes of his comrades over any alliance member.

What was the “alliance” thinking, anyway? Sure, they can pick off members now, but they had to know that this master plan will backfire at the end. Guess brainiac Rich didn’t think this through so well, huh?

Greg received 6 votes when he was kicked off, so there was no “swing vote” so to speak.

Since the previews make it look like Sue is going to switch and vote against Rich, I predict that Rich is safe for another week. The show is getting predictable in trying to throw the viewers off track (notice the big buildup prior to the council meeting last night showing everyone saying they were going to vote for Rich - as soon as they did that I knew he was safe).

Boy, what was Kelly thinking voting for Sean? She had to know that most people were voting for Rich and that Sean was voting for Jenna. Why cast a lone, meaningless, vote like that. Had she voted for Rich we would have a tie vote. (Incidently, someone asked what happens if there’s a tie – there’s a thread in GQ about it right now.)

My prediction for next week - Kelly is gone. She’s up on Sean’s vote, and the alliance (which I don’t think Sue is ready to leave yet) has to be aware that she’s not voting with them anymore. One other possibility is that Sue is indeed ready to leave, but that Rich wins the immunity challenge so she stays in the alliance for one more week. (Everyone calls Rich sneaky and backstabbing, but I think Sue is just as bad).

GO RUDY!!!

By process of elimination based on solely on personality–Richard and Susan always seemed quite arrogant to me, so they’re out. Rudy’s abrasiveness eliminates him. Sean and Gervase strike me as being pretty dense. That leaves Kelly and Colleen, and while Kelly seems smarter, Colleen seems more likeable. I’d have to pick Colleen.

Of course, Colleen seems like she might be annoying to some, so I have my doubts whether she’ll last, but my best guess is that Colleen and Gervase are the finalists.

I think Kelly is the next off, especially if Sean continues his voting strategy (and if he knows the alphabet). She broke from The Alliance™, so they’ll want to get her off before Sean gets hit on the head with a second coconut and starts making sense.

After that, the alliance breaks and it’s Richard, Susan, Sean, and Rudy.

Sean is a big dumbass. There’s nothing else to it. He didn’t think his vote was going to matter? Yeah, right. It might not have mattered, if he hadn’t told everyone what the hell he was doing. There’s no way he’s completely oblivious to the fact that there’s an alliance. He’s just trying to be some kinda cutesy-pie good guy, hiding behind the “don’t take it out against me, it’s just the alphabet” excuse.

Here’s what I predict for next week. Gervaise, Colleen and Kelly will vote for Rich again. The only hope Kelly has is that the other members of the alliance don’t think she’s deserted. If they do, she’s gone. Alternately, Sue might actually come to her senses and vote Nature Boy Rich off the island, and work from there, but I have a feeling that she and Grampa Hatemonger Rudy will stick with Rich for one more week, to make sure they don’t have anything to worry about.

Personally, I’d like to see Colleen win. She’s the only one who never pisses me off, and she’s obviously keyed in on the fact that there’s an alliance against her and her teammates (well, Gervaise is her teammate. Sean just sucks.).

umm…again? Kelly voted for Sean last night.

Well, might as well throw out my worthless guess on how this will play out.

Next week, I think Susan will turn on Rich, when she sees that a new alliance is stronger. She’ll try to join the bandwagon. But, since Survivor teases stuff that never happens, Rich will pull through because he will win immunity. The new alliance will then dump Susan. The next week will see Richard finally get his due. Then, I think Kelly goes, followed by Sean then Rudy. When it comes down to a final vote between Gervase and Colleen, Gervase will win with votes from Richard, Sean, Rudy, and Susan.

Yeah, that’ll happen. At this point, I am fine with anyone winning other than Richard or Susan. I believe they have a darn good strategy to make it as far as possible, but I don’t cotton to the lying and backstabbing. But then again, for a million bucks I would be pretty cold-hearted too.

And, I think Rudy is great because you always know just how he feels and what he is thinking. It is a breath of fresh air on the island, especially for someone who came so close to being voted off at the beginning.

Okay, just some random Survivor thoughts so I can get on with my day and actually get some work done for a change. (In case you can’t tell, I’ve been spending way too much time and thought on this show – odd, because I never liked Real World and have never seen Big Brother.)

First, what’s up with this Survivor Sucks website? Christ, they must spend more time analyzing this show than I do, and they supposedly don’t like it!!! I don’t like Sabrina the Teenaged Witch, so I just don’t watch it.

Second, the whole “surviving” aspect of the show is a farce, I think we can all agree on that. The part that keeps me interested is the interaction, politics, etc. It’s sort of intriguing to try to figure out what each person is thinking.

Third, has anyone else read the Chicago Tribune’s predictions each week on who will kicked off. They haven’t been right once.

Fourth, I agree with many of the above that in the long run the Alliance will be its own demise. However, most of those in it would probably be gone if they hadn’t formed it. Richard is getting worse (cockier) every week. Sue is the same way. Rudy, however, is coming on strong. I think people actually are starting to warm up to him!!

Finally, a friend of mine and I have developed the following nicknames to keep track of everyone without having to remember their real names:

Rich = Fat-naked-gay-guy
Rudy = Cranky-old-Navy-guy
Gervase = Lazy Bastard
Sean = Pretty Boy
Sue = Trucker Trash
Jenna = Tears-R-Us
Kelly = River-guide-who-can’t-row-her-way-out-of-a-paper-bag
and finally, Colleen = Island Whore (best when sung to the tune of Elton John’s Island Girl)

Thank you for letting me spout. :smiley:

Whoa, Gazoo, that was…enlightening. (Can only imagine the handle you would’ve given Colleen…)

First off, kudos to Gervase for having the best quote of the day: “As my grandfather used to tell me, ‘If you want to be seen, stand up. If you want to be heard, speak up. If you want to be appreciated, shut up’.” Man, just what the hell was Sean thinking? Tipping his hand…heck, he was practically laughing about it…was simply ridiculous.

As for CBS leading us down blind alleys…yeah, they do that. The key, though, is that you have to pick up on the right clue. Go back to the immunity challenge. Notice how Sean deliberately boxed out Jenna and never even turned an eye to Rudy (who wasn’t in any danger anyway), and he reveals to the world that she’s the one he’s voting for. Yes it was subtle…but as we’ve seen, the subtle clues are usually correct.

Anyway, handicapping the final seven:
Colleen - She doesn’t annoy anyone, and with Greg out of the way her, erm, sexuality isn’t an issue anymore. If the Gang of Three (formerly Four) doesn’t target her, she’s definitely good for at least two more tribal councils. Right now I have to consider her a favorite.

Gervase - He’s made it this far despite his self-professed laziness, and at this point I have to believe he knows something we don’t. For him it’s just a matter of avoiding confrontations and winning the immunity challenge when it counts.

Kelly - IMHO, she bailed out of the alliance one council too early. She looks vulernable now and may need to build some bridges fast to last the week.

Richard - Slim and none, and slim’s paddling out to sea. Even if he makes it to the final vote, there’s no chance of him winning…his ego’s made sure of that.

Rudy - To have a chance he has to outlast his alliance buddies and hope Gervase, Kelly, and Colleen don’t make it to the end. Difficult but not impossible.

Sean - Stick a fork in him. The Jenna vote sealed his fate. He’s a marked man and won’t last much longer.

Susan - Not nearly as annoying as Richard (I kinda like her honesty, even if it’s a bit blunt). If she outlasts Colleen, you have to like her chances.

Footnote: I can try to transcribe the letter Jenna received here if anyone’s interested.