You realize I am saying this as a gay man. But some Lesbians are really mean. Not half. Not all. But a good percentage of them I would say.
Just to give one example (and I’ve seen many), we had this gym teacher in Catholic grade school, Miss C. And she was an obvious Lesbian. Anyway, we were outside, walking to the monastery field to do something. And this boy (let’s call him R) kept spitting every couple of feet. Finally Miss C apparently had enough. So she stopped the group, and she told him, you spit one more time, and I’m rubbing your face in it. She was going to rub his face in it? That’s not very ladylike.
(Yeah, I was mortified when I first heard it. But looking back now, it would’ve been kind of funny to actually see her do it. I never saw her really go through on one of her threats [and there were many]. I digress.)
I mean what is it? Hormonal? Cultural? Pathological? And why are gay men just the opposite (ditto on the aforementioned three points)? You realize that the recent scandal with Ellen DeGeneres (whether deserved or not) is partly what inspired this thread.
Why are car salesmen so mean? When I was in junior high, I was bullied by two different kids, and weirdly they both went out to be car salesmen. Plus, have you seen the way they act at dealerships when you don’t buy at the price they want?
Is it cultural? Hormonal? Societal? Someone help me here.
What an absolutely bizarre thread. You can’t possibly think that there are no mean gay men. Have you never met another gay man in your life? Some of every single group on the planet are “mean.” (I’m sure you could find some mean Quakers if you looked.)
Is this meant to be a “joke”? A “good percentage” of lesbians are mean, and your old gym teacher made an unladylike threat? I feel I should not take the bait, but I also don’t think this thread should remain here.
Because, like it or not, it sells cars. Being pushy is what moves big ticket items (with people that don’t buy big ticket items on a regular basis).
Also, on the assumption that selling cars (new or used) involves some behind the scenes trickery/dishonestly, people that are willing to use those tactics might also be the same people that don’t have an issue treating others like dirt.
I lived in a relatively lesbian suburb, close to a clearly lesbian bar that was eventually closed down/ lost their licence after too many fights / too many police callouts. Observing the interaction, I formed the opinion that butch lesbians were mean for the same reason some men are: treat 'em mean, keep 'em keen. They bullied their women. And their women were mean for the same reason some women are: lacking physical strength they exercised power by words.
I am not LGBT, but it seems being lesbian means the social hardship of being homosexual, plus the inherent disadvantages of being a woman (catcalling, etc). So, a double whammy. That quite understandably turns some into men-haters, or just angry in general.
I have an image in my head of a lot of lesbians being very anti-male but I’ve found anecdotally at least it doesn’t hold up.
I worked with two women who were lesbians and they were both very sweet and helpful to me when I was the new employee.
I also took a college class a couple years ago and it was a very small class. There was a lesbian in the class that sort of seemed the quintessential lesbian. She had to be about 6’ 300 pounds, short hair, tattoos, and she didn’t look particularly friendly.
I needed to study for an exam once and I found that it was just the two of us in there. She ended up breaking the silence and we ended up talking for about an hour. Even about what kinds of women we found attractive. Honestly talking to her was like talking with “one of the guys”.
I think the question ultimately boils down to: Are some lesbians so mean because they’re lesbians?
I don’t know. To believe that without any evidence would be a prejudiced attitude.
So the answer is maybe, maybe not, definitely not, etc.
Humans are mean because we’re an aggressive species. It may be one of the traits that have ensured our survival.
So, if you come across with mean folks, you can account for those people’s meanness by referring to their humanity.
Pretty paradoxical, isn’t it?
