Why can't I be a real bastard? (feelings still unexplained)

This thread has the background.

Please read it so you can understand this, and be patient, the second part of this story becomes more interesting near the end.

Part II

Sometimes I think my problems is that I’m a very good guy. Even that she pronounces herself as “decent” and “morally correct”, and I use to defend free-thinking, I can clearly see that she is a “bad girl” (I’m not insulting her), but her family (and that’s logical), specially her mom, defends her as if she was a 15 years old girl.

Let me clarify it. I didn’t hear the kind advices from Darkhold and Missy2U and commit the mistake of trying to improve the relations between she and me. She is clearly blocking me from any communication. She is far away. But some days ago, she changed her email address because of me, I sent her two emails telling her what she had done wrong. She didn’t reply. She changed her email address and sent her new address to all of her friends and relatives. Immediately, believe it or not, a misterious contact (one of them I suppose) sent me a copy of her email. Unidentified person. Then, curiosity engaged me (and a little desire of show her I’m not the villain, I accept it), I wrote her to that email and told her a couple of things, because I still owe her some money and I wanted to prove her that I’m an honest man. I told her that she didn’t have to see me as the enemy and that we may be still friends and that’s only I want (please notice that I don’t love her, and I think I never did it, but I feel damaged and cheated. I know what kind of problems have to expect from her if we have married).

Well… :smack: fatal error. Her sister (living near our town) called me and told me that “she has found a job where she is and she doesn’t need no more nervous breakdowns”. Her mother called me today, telling me that I am “stalking her”, that I have to stop sending her emails (I’ve only sent her two since she’s gone) and that she had done very wrong returning from Japan to be with me, because “she was married still and that was adultery”! She says that she thinks I forced her. Come on! Come on! Doper friends… she is 32! She took her decision by herself, she returned with money her fathers sent her and she decided start a life with me!! Suddenly she reacts irrational again and flies away, then she starts accusing me that I’m molesting her (a common, very smart friend who was in living in Japan the time she lived there, told it to me very clearly: “that’s a fucking lie! she wasn’t comfortable with her second husband! She was needing an excuse to escape from him! I perceived that when I saw them!”. Althought he believes that she didn’t do it on purpose, she only took a “romantic way” to escape her situation).

But… her own mother accusing me for induce her to “adultery”? What does she think? That I put her a gun in her head at the other side of the world and forced her? That’s the most absurd thing I’ve ever heard in my life. A woman friend and I have deduced that her mother has a very deep fault in her behavior: she seems to protect her from every mistake she commits, letting her blame everybody for her own acts.

And know what? This is not all. This is a very delicate issue, and indeed the motive of the title of this thread. Please grab your seats…

When she arrived here, 8 months ago, we started almost immediately having sex, contrary to her rules of “decency”. She did show a lot of passion, but she stated that it was for love! And… I don’t know how to say it. Well. Here it is: we took some pictures of ourselves naked, making sex, in very explicit actions. If you ask, they look like professional porno images (you know, fellatio, positions, etc.). Later, when our problem started, she came here and said again that she did it for love and she wanted me to erase it from my hard drive (she haven’t seen the pictures until that day). Bullshit! If you could see the pictures would agree with me that… “love, my ass!”. It’s was a real sexual photographic session of consenting adults.

Ok, then I erased the images but… as you could suspect, I preserved some copies of them. She started worrying that what if I save copies from the picture, and I told her… “That’s your problem of acting like that. All your actions must be calculated so you won’t be repenting later. If you was about to love me, then you were trusting me but at the same time, you should have known you’re not gonna regret the things you do. That has always been your problem! Now, even if I assure you that I erased the images, you’ll never be sure of that!”. Of course, she went with the doubt… and a couple of days later, she was gone.

Oooph… I really beg your pardon (in the real sense). That’s it. I’m not a bastard. And no one but me will ever see that photographs.

But help me to understand… how the hell can she sleep, having insulted me and having had a brief affair with her married friend (this is a proved fact), done all those things and then moving away, technically abandoning me, knowing that I’m in possession of a strong weapon, strong enough to destroy her reputation before her friends and family, if I were a bastard? Would she say those pictures are fake or that she did it for love (or forced, again)? But, who in the world would believe that? :dubious:

God knows, and I hope you will, too, that I’ll never use that weapon against her. Be sure and don’t mind about me, I know very well I’m not a bastard or a villain. But I can’t still explain my feelings about this situation. If I were her, I would have thought it twice before acting that unstable and incoherent way. And that, for unknown reasons, touches deep in my heart as you can imagine.

I don’t know what kind of comments to expect from you, but please, be nice with me. :frowning: I’m not saying names, so no one can be damaged.

Theres an old Brooklyn saying.

“I know where you’re at, 'cause I’ve been where you’ve been” which is a stupid way of saying I know exactly what you are talking about.

I don’t know if there even is anything to understand. People do strange things, and they rarely ever make 100% sense. Best thing to do is put her her out of your mind and move on.

Grousser, my friend…you are an asshole. Tear up the pictures, destroy all evidence of her wild behavior, and MOVE THE FUCK ON. She’s obviously done with you. Her family is more than you want to fuck with anyway. You sound like you’re fucking with her now, and that means you’re an asshole. Find a girl who cares about you as much as you care about her.

You have no obligation to “teach her a lesson”. Stop trying to talk to her, don’t talk to her if she tries to talk to you, and move on with your life.

Err… I think I stated clearly that I won’t use the “evidence”, anyway there is no case to evidence something. You say that I only sound like I’m fucking with her, and that’s true: it only sounds like that. But see, my real worry is not using the pictures. In fact, they are securely encrypted, stored and ready to be forgot, only by me, in the depths of some obscure cd.

Why in the world, Kalhoun did you miss my original point? I’m obviously saying that if I were a villain maybe I would be fucking her with such weapon, but because I’m not, then I did suffer more than she does (althought she tries to show somehting different). I seem not to be hurt, but I was in some fashion; she seems to be hurt, but she’s not.

Of course, I have nothing to teach her. In fact, I’m starting a new relationship (only to relax and moving on), telling this story is really a way to discharge all my negative feelings, of course, sharing them with known strangers as we all seem to be, hoping to hear for you practical points of view, like the others (World Eater and Super Gnat). She needs no avengers because she is not in danger, at least because of me. I only expect some psychological analysis of a strange behavior, that’s the only way to cure my bad experience, and I assure you I’m moving on. You know, in my real life, I can’t be telling this story to anybody, only to my very very closest friends who I really trust.

On the other hand, I think in everybody’s real life, things like the photographs issue happens everywhere and everytime. Sometimes people don’t react about the dangers when they’re possessed by passion (hey it was our idea, not just mine). And I bet there are a lot of stored pics of “innocent people” around. Wow… we all are innocent when we mean it.

Get rid of the photos. Methinks you doth protest too much. You’ve obviously thought about using them as a weapon, or you wouldn’t have mentioned NOT using them here. “Gee, I’m such a good guy for not sending this amatuer porn to her mom.”

And if you’re starting a new relationship, how do you think you hanging onto porn you made with your old-psycho-girlfriend is going to make your new lady feel? Get rid of the photos.

Oh and the psychological analysis of a strange behavior? She is a needy immature person who likes the sympathy she gets when others percieve her as a victim. You are better off without her.

The other strange behavior is yours. You really need to get over this obsession with her. Gathering ‘proof’ that she’s having affairs is not healthy. Do not email or contact her - that is stalking. She has made it abundently clear that she is through with you. Who cares if she lies to her family about “abuse”? And do not keep the porn - that is just stupid.

Let this go.

Kalhoun may have worded things a bit harsh, but her point is a good one. Delete the pictures and move on.

Oh, of course I once thought about using the photos. But you see, I would never do it, because that would only imply that I’m sick for her and that I’m a kind of pyscho, behavior that I’ve studied a lot of times. But wait… don’t you see that if I were a psycho, I wouldn’t be posting here? People who does criminal or threatening acts don’t hang around message boards. Think that if that was the case, I’d be telling this to everyone in my town. And this won’t ever happen.

I’m very careful about legal, moral or familiar implications of my actions. This kind of stuff is not like “Hey, see that I’m good because I’m not doing it”, is more like “Gee, why the hell I’m not bad for sending that amateur porn to her mom? Damn!”.

Don’t be paranoid about seeing criminal conduct everywhere. If I turned out to be a famous writer, I would be transporting all my experience in a novel, in the psychotic mind of a fictional criminal, putting him to do things that I’d never do in my real life. And no one (except the real persons) would have ever notice.

And for the peace of mind, I’ve noticed, as I said before, that writing and sharing is the only way to discharge negative emotions, instead of acting wrong ways. I have also noticed that, once discharged and starting to date with another person quickly takes me to forget the facts and, as you wisely say, to let this go and move on.

I want to thank all of you because, as I wanted advicement and I got it, I will take it, just ignoring every insulting intent and filtering only the good messages. That’s why I love this town (SDMB).

Of course, I’m very sure this too shall pass. :wink: