You are correct about most Asian women looking extremely attractive, while many western women are overweight, but unfortunately, many Asian women are now following their western sisters in piling on the fat.
It all depends on what you consider attractive though, isn’t it? All I’m really getting at is that looks are highly subjective.
When I see someone say that on average an entire group of women are not just good looking but damned good looking as fact then it’s hard to take things they say seriously. You’re not touting it as fact but you’re also in there saying most (not many, but most) Asian women are extremely attractive and you say it’s no doubt.
That’s just nuts to me and more than a little arrogant that anyone thinks they can confidently say that about any group of people when attractiveness is really not something that can be measured due to varied opinions. It’s certainly one thing to say “In my opinion blah blah blah” but to say no doubt or it’s fact? Pretty ridiculous because everyone’s mileage does vary.
Just as another data point, I’ve known a few guys who liked asian girls, and precisely none of them mentioned attributes like “submissive”.
They just like how, on average, they look: possibly amplified by the fact that in the UK people of East Asian descent are not very common, so there’s an element of mystery, exotic blah blah.
Also, another data point on the living in Asia thing: I am living in China right now and can attest that the women here are confident and interesting, and expats have to earn their respect like anyone else. Just as I expected it would be.
I just want to ask the OP why they think that the reverse “women dating Asian men” is not a “thing”.
And, what about women that will only date men that have a well paying job, look handsome, drive an expensive car etc etc. Isn’t that also superficial?
I say it because I see DDG women all over the place in Thailand and Singapore, and hundreds of thousands of western men also think it’s true. Being pedantic about “many” vs “most” won’t change that.
Are you not aware that it’s only 'objectivism" when men do it to women, LOL.
Huh. I have to join Namkcalb in his confusion. For some reason I thought you had grown up in Korea and first come to America as a college student.
You think this is about the difference between many and most? The mind boggles.
Let’s try it again but read slower this time. Looks are subjective. What you find drop dead gorgeous can be just okay or even ick to other people. Whippity doo that hundreds of thousands of western men think it’s true. Hundreds of thousands of western men probably also don’t agree. Maybe millions of men think Swedish women are the hottest around while millions more may be unimpressed.
To pretend that you can factually say that a group of people are hotter than another group of people (especially as wide a group as “Asian women”) is nutso crazypants or hopelessly daft. Facts when it comes to attractive? Hell you could take the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit edition and show it to a hundred thousand men and each model will have numerous guys thinking she’s the hottest thing ever while simultaneously having numerous guys think she’s a dog. That’s what’s so awesome about different tastes.
Now, this little side conversation has gone on long enough for me. If you want to continue to act like you can say these things as if they are fact rather than just your opinion then I say bless your heart and don’t let things like logic stop you. Be you!
I agree with you that there is no “fact” of which group is more attractive, and that it is subjective. But subjective is not the same thing as arbitrary, and I think with this example you are leaning towards the latter.
At the very least virtually all models are young, have good skin and symmetry, all of which are pretty much universally desired (although youth is a largely gender-specific one).
Also, has no-one commented on your name?
Aw, shucks, Namkcalb, thanks – and if I’m in a fantasy world then go ahead and pop me in a straightjacket, 'cause I suspect I’m not coming back.
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To pretend that you can factually say that a group of people are hotter than another group of people (especially as wide a group as “Asian women”) is nutso crazypants or hopelessly daft. Facts when it comes to attractive? Hell you could take the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit edition and show it to a hundred thousand men and each model will have numerous guys thinking she’s the hottest thing ever while simultaneously having numerous guys think she’s a dog. That’s what’s so awesome about different tastes.
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But physical attractiveness does have a number of quantifiable factors. For example, the United States has the highest obesity rate in the world, and Japan the lowest. Over a third of American women are obese. Given that there’s an evolutionary predilection for healthy mates, and obesity is a visual cue to unhealthiness, couldn’t you say that according to at least one parameter Japanese women should be more sexually attractive on average than American women, other things being equal?
I know at least one guy who reports being “repulsed” by Asian women. I think that level of antipathy is rare, but clearly not everyone agrees Asian women are the hottest thing around. Indeed, it’s pretty obvious that Asian ladies don’t float everyone’s boat. I knew people in China who dated constantly, but I also know guys who only dates expats and never dated Chinese women.
I just wanted to come in and shout that I mostly date Chinese women, but then again, I live in China.
I’ve been thinking about this lately.
While I do think that the existence of men who think both that Asian women are all submissive and that they prefer dating submissive women are well within the realm of possibility, my guess is they are in the extreme minority of mixed race couples.
What I think is far more likely, (and no, I’m not accusing any posters in this thread of this) is that this idea some form of passive-agressive racism on the part of the accusers.
As in " I think interracial relationships are abnormal, therefore the participants in those relationships must be in them for abnormal reasons".
+1
I have a sort-of-related question that just occurred to me for the first time: why the hell aren’t there any SE Asian supermodels in the West?
I think you have to draw a distinction between women of Asian descent and women who are actually from Asia. If you are dating a fourth-generation immigrant in the US, you probably aren’t dating the culture. She most likely eats wings and grew up in a house with a white picket fence or whatever just like you did. If you seek out new immigrants or go to Asia to meet chicks, that’s different.
Anyway, when you see a bunch of guys who say ridiculous things like:
…you’re bound to get suspicious. That’s not to say that there aren’t attractive Asian women, of course. Two of my five Doper crushes are of Asian extraction. 
It’s really not an accurate stereotype anywhere really. Personally I’ve found foreign-born Asian girls to be super ambitious and exacting. I’ve found certain American-born asian girls to be demanding and high-maintenance and love the drama as well. Others are very Americanized and like white guys and personality-wise are indistinguishable from a caucasian American. THe demure, submissive, hide-your-laugh-behind-a-bamboo-fan geisha is about as common as a Valkyrie or a Vestal Virgin.
I don’t think it’s fair to copare pop stars and the people of Wal Mart. There are a fair amount of homely and ugly Asians out there (no offense?). The weight issue is true - Asians tend to be thinner but if you want to point out generalities, Asians also don’t have the curves, legs, or smile (teeth) of Americans.
Asian women and white guys are the most common interracial couple in the US while asian men with white women is half as common. The least is asian men taking a black wife.
Where are those statistics from?
Shorter white guys like myself at 5’ 6" also find a wider pool of height appropriate women amoung asians.
I am 5’ 6" also, and I also enjoy being able to meet and date Asian women that are shorter than myself.
I have dated women that are taller than me, and it feels like being with a man, so the opportunity to meet and date shorter women is nice.