I get it now, Diane. I didn’t connect that the two parts of that post were related. Once I did I got a good chuckle. I guess that counts as a ::whoosh::
DaLovin’ Dj
UncleBeer
Making a point or pushing the envelope? You be the judge!
You know, Unk, I don’t think that generally speaking I fall into the “dim” category. I think it’s reasonable, when confronted with a “rule” I’ve never heard of (no links to “full frontal nudity or any page that links to full frontal nudity”), to ask questions about it. I also think it’s reasonable, when a link is removed for containing “full frontal nudity” when it in fact doesn’t contain full frontal nudity, to question that too. And finally, instead of stompin’ in here and being insulting about it, maybe you could put in a link to these “rules” as has been requested of you:
Alrighty, I’ll answer the OP, and any other questions that may have popped up. Although I, too, think my closing remark in the relevant thread was clear enough. I would have answered this sooner, but I’ve been very busy.
[ul][li]The main reason for closing the thread was the degenerating tone of the discussion. It was not a “Mundane & Pointless” thread anymore. People started debating the issue by means of shouting at one another. Since I couldn’t move it to GD because of the profanity, and I didn’t WANT to move it to the Pit because that would be out of line with the OP’s intent, I closed it. And since I didn’t want to spend 30 minutes quoting and coding, I added a nice cover-all comment for those to whom it concerned. Don’t sweat it, non-native, you weren’t in the Top 5.[/li][li]I found Pump Action Gerbil’s joke very tacky. EXTREMELY. I don’t consider myself an overly PC person, and I don’t expect everyone to agree with tht judgement call. Fact of the matter is that it is my call to make (or Unc’s, of course), and I made it. I’ll do it the exact same way the next time such a display of bad taste occurs.[/li][li]Otto, I realise your link was not a porn link per se. I briefly browsed through the site, and it was indeed informative. However, I’m performing a simple job here. If I click on a link and the first thing I see is a pair of robust hooters, the link’s gotta go. Don’t take it personally, but that’s the way it is. I’ll just leave the remarks about moderators being Gods and Goddesses, and posters being scum, for what they are.[/li][*]Jester, nicely summarised. That’s about the gist of it.[/ul]Any more questions? As long as I’m here anyway. 
Um… I never made an argument saying dating being is like hiring hooker, but if you want still want to defend against it, sure why not. You seem to have this big misconception that i approve of people who sleep with hookers. I obviously don’t (though for a different reason than you). That’s why i felt so bad after sleeping with one, in a drunken stupor. I wasn’t boasting that i had sex with a hooker. I was ashamed, and i asked for consolation.
By the way, i know you think very highly of yourself when it comes to women, because you’ve suggested it in other threads.
Oh, i think the number of people who found that offensive greatly outweighs those who found it amusing.
I didn’t mean he was your friend literally. No matter.
So you’re saying since the OP to begin with was so “foolish” in the first place, I shouldn’t have been any given consolation, but just be ridiculed? Man, you’re a nice guy. Remind me to make fun of you when you make a mistake.
You’re right. I’ve completely over-estimated this forum. I thought the people here were considerate enough to not ridicule me and offer me support. But you’ve proven otherwise.
Everyone remember to laugh and make fun of dalovindj if he ever does anything he regrets.
you may think this sounds harsh but you ask for support but what have YOU done to get support and consolation if in your post you said I slept with a prostitute I was drunk at the time I now realize I have a problem with alcohol and Monday morning I went to get help with my problem I have not read in your post where there is a change of behavior your post sounded like you had great sympathy for the prostitute yet knowing what she goes through you still had sex with her was it the alcohol, your friends that made you do it .What changes have you made in your life to prevent you from repeating behavior that you regret later
Wooo - Dave A little more punctuation, SVP. My mind is reeling here…
Coldfire, thanks for your response to my concerns. I appreciate what you’re saying. Of course, being the card-carryin’ member of the ACLU and First Amendment near-absolutist that I am* I thoroughly disagree with what you’re saying, but I understand it. I think the SDMB crew ought to look at linked sites on a case-by-case basis and not have a knee-jerk delete the link at the first sign of boobies policy (“serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value” standard, anyone?). I think there needs to be some recognition of the difference between a site loaded with hardcore beaver shots and one whose primary purpose is informational and which happens to have a bare tittie or two along the way. I also think the idea that for a link to stand then every page and link at the other end of the link has to be “clean” is a ridiculous standard and I honestly don’t believe that the Mods systematically click every link, then click every link that link brings up. If there really is a “two-click rule” in effect I hope that you’ll reconsider it.
And I still don’t appreciate your implication that I was anything other than a perfect gentleman in the other thread, but I’ll assume absent confirmation to the contary that I, like non-native, was not in the Top Five.
All that being said, who does a girl have to fuck around here to get a link to these rules everyone keeps talking about? This makes the third time I’ve asked and at least two Mods have viewed this thread, and still there is no link. If the rules is the User Agreement, it’s been some 18 months since I read it and I’m a bit hazy on the specifics. If it’s something else, please link them here or email me a copy and/or link. Thanks.
*For everyone licking their chops at the prospect of telling me that the First Amendment doesn’t apply to private companies like the Chicago Reader, thank you I am already aware of it. I included the inforamtion to better illustrate where I’m coming from on this issue and to give an idea of what informed my opinion.
Can I say it?
A hooker.
No, I don’t. Cite please?
Well, for reasons I already stated, I think consolation in this situation is unwarranted. I reccomend you keep your further exploits with hoookers to yourself, or at least find a board more geared toward debauchery. You don’t have to take my advice, but don’t be surprised when you get reactions other than a warm fuzzy hug and a “Chin up sport, it aint so bad”. When you do something stupid around here, you get called on it. IMHO, paying for sex is stupid. I reserve the right to mock anyone who does, as well as laugh at anyone else who mocks those who do.
Cite pleae? I can think of only one such example. Something about honies bouncin’ in a hip-hop thread. I never stated whether I got laid, only that they dug the music I was playing. But I’d be glad to discuss any quotes you can find where I engage in such behaivior.
I think you’re wrong.
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NO. I said I aint given’ ya any sympathy. I think ridicule of the subject is very appropriate yes. It doesn’t have to be the only response, and it wasn’t. But it’s certainly a valid response.
Whatever. I’ll tell you about some mistakes I made, if you want to take a shot at me. My philosophy with this board is that I will answer any question about myself with complete and utter truth. So go ahead, ask me what the biggest mistake I’ve ever made is. I’ll tell you. And you know what, if someone responds with a joke at my expense, I won’t be offended. Part of learning from mistakes is being able to laugh at yourself later.
Yup. MPSIMS does not stand for “Agree with everything I say and give me empathy no matter what cause it’s all hugs here”. It stand for Mundane, Pointless, Stuff I Must Share.
Your post was, IMHO, pointless and stupid. You were feeling sorry for yourself and fishing for sympathy. That’s unentertaining to me. I come here for entertainment, not self affirmation. You should come here for the same reason, or you’ll find it to be lacking. Even in MPSIMS. That joke made your silly thread entertaining.
Don’t worry. Many people here have already laughed at me and made fun. (Maybe you can read some of those threads while your looking for where I spoke about my luck with the ladies.) I do not, however, regret one word I have ever typed here(with the exception of typos and mistaken identitys). So have at me if you want. Doesn’t change anything.
DaLovin’ Dj
I really couldn’t give a flying fuck about what you (dalovindj) think me or my thread but for sake of others, stop being such a dick. Since you’re supposed to be the epitome of cool (or whatever the hell you claim to be) you should know that making fun of someone for his mistakes is not the the “coolest” thing to do. I actually think i took the tasteless jokes rather well, until your personal attacks and claims that i was a “schmuck”, and my thread was “stupid”, “ridiculous” and most importantly gasp “unentertaining” to you. Lacking in entertainment is a sin that should not go unpunished, right? Be a decent guy and leave us schmucks alone to feel sorry for ourselves after making mistakes instead of going out of your way to be an ass and make us feel bad.
You know what? I think you’re trying your very best to make this into a pissing contest, and i think you’ve succeeded. So I don’t know about you, but i’m going to stop flinging shit, and hopefully so are you.
Welcome to my world, non.
Esprix
There you go Esprix. You couldn’t hold back. I guess your not down for the no negativity deal. I’ve made note. See ya round.
non-native:
Just for the record, in my scorebook, when 2 people are debating an issue, and finally one says “I don’t care what you think” That person has lost a point. They are no longer discussing the issue at hand, but are resorting to na-na-na-poo-poo level statements. But let me guess: You don’t care.
Supposed to be that according to who? Ribbing someone when they are acting stupid is a good way to teach em a lesson. I really couldn’t care less about being cool, but that’s been explained in a few threads. Would you like a link?
No. But you damn sure shouldn’t be offended when people come along and try to make it entertaining. What is it exactly, that you are looking for from this board?
Don’t write about feeling sorry for yourself because you used a hooker, in a public place where I have the ability to comment on your words. I’m of the opinion that such a thing should really be kept private. For goddsakes man. Don’t tell people you slept with a hooker. If you must, then don’t start riding a high horse when people take your plight as less than serious.
Flinging shit? I’m discussing the wisdom of posting hooker experiences in MPSIMS, as well as appropriate responses should such an event occur. I’m not going out of my way to make you feel one way or another. I’m discussing a topic I find interesting truthfully. If my position on your behavior makes you uncomfortable: Dems da breaks kid.
Call em like I see em type of shit. Dig?
DaLovin’ Dj
I guess that’s what he means in his profile when he says he likes to “stay positive.”
I think he’s right.
Somehow, I wouldn’t trust a person to divulge honestly his most humiliating mistakes if he doesn’t even have what it takes to admit honestly the mistakes he’s made in this thread. I wouldn’t even trust that person to know his most humiliating mistakes. Not that I really care; it’s just that non-native had already admitted that he wasn’t proud of what he did. Ridicule couldn’t possibly help anything in this situation. He told his story because he wanted to hear some other people’s experiences, some discussion. And yes, he wanted some consolation for the way he’s feeling. If you didn’t want to offer those things, you were free not to post there. I read a lot of threads here that I think are stupid. I move on until I find one that appeal to me more.
I believe that the intent of non-native’s post was to fight ignorance–to find some closure on a lesson he had learned, to share that lesson with others, and to listen if anyone had anything constructive to add to the lesson. The juvenile jokes went against that intent, and were therefore in support of the ignorance this board purports to fight.
Bingo. You were free not to read the thread or not to reply to it. I would add that tact includes not saying true stuff at the wrong time. The dictionary says something about “sensitive mental or aesthetic perception.” Yeah, several people “passed” on it in that thread.
Actually, I like to think of most SDers as my buds, even the ones I debate with from time to time, as long as they are polite. But because we’re online buds, it’s sometimes easier to talk here about some things than it is with our Real Life friends. I don’t think that the OP was stupid at all, only that some of the responses were.
I’m not a stranger to off-color jokes and mockery; I enjoy them in the right time and place. That thread wasn’t it. If a few people learn to use such humor appropriately because of this discussion, then ignorance is being fought. But I suspect that we aren’t all here for the same reason.
blinks
I’m confused.
Didn’t dalovindj say he slept/sleeps/will sleep/would sleep with a hooker someone else has paid for?
Isn’t that what happened to non-native, only unintentionally?
So why are they arguing again? Because non-native feels bad about having done something dalovindj admittedly has/would done/do but doesn’t feel bad about?
And furthermore, I find it pretty … um … “convenient” … logic that sleeping with a hooker one has paid for oneself is “lame” but sleeping with a hooker one’s friends paid for (I wouldn’t imagine random people would just charitably “buy” hookers for someone they don’t know) is an offer one just can’t resist. Either way said hooker is receiving money for sex … what’s the difference? One degree of separation?
Thanks for saying it, Caiata, I don’t see one iota of difference myself.
I’m not going to argue either side because I really don’t give a shit one way or another. What I will do is suggest that non-native not post something to a public message board if he isn’t willing to accept any and all responses.
We didn’t catch it at the time. Sometimes an objectionable post or link gets past us, it’s a big board.
There’s current moderators posting in that thread, but they were not moderators at the time the original posts were made.
The link’s not valid now anyway, so there.
Sorry we’re not at your beck and call.
It’s a big board, we’re not a huge group of people moderating, we sometimes have to do other stuff, like, oh, sleep, hold down paying jobs, take care of children.
If you want to ensure a more immediate response to things, drop us an email.
Log off the board and then click on “Register.”
You’ll be taken to the page with the registration agreement. Read at leisure.
Future editions of the FAQ will contain the entire text of the registration agreement.
But here’s the relevant part:
When we originally wrote the registration agreement we didn’t want a lot of rules, we still don’t. Policy has evolved from this basic understanding between you the user and us the moderators and is still evolving over the life of the board to handle situations as they occur.
We prefer to state some guidelines as above and rely on our moderators and administrators to handle situations based on these guidelines and their good judgment.
your humble TubaDiva
Administrator
non-native
Well, see, here’s your problem. You’re in a pissing contest and you’re flinging shit. You’re working in the wrong medium. Kind of like bringing a hockey stick to a soccer game.
TubaDiva, quoting the Reg agreement
OK, so is “linking” the same under these rules as “posting”? If I link, say, an episode description on a Buffy site to a post in Cafe Society am I considered to have “posted” the information at the other end of the link? And where is the fabled “one-click rule” in this? I totally get that you don’t want to write some big huge document for what is, after all, a pissant Internet message board that in the grander scheme of things is almost completely insignificant, but when a rule has been so codified that it has a pithy handle (like “the ‘one-click rule’”) it ought to be posted somewhere. Also, several mods have said in the past that they do not make legal decisions about what’s posted here, but most of the words describing prohibited materials (e.g. “defamatory,” “harassing,” “obscene,” “violative of any law”) require legal conclusions, so how can you say that you aren’t making legal decisions?
Oh, and just to keep this in the realm of the Pit and not ATMB, let me add a pro forma “this rule sucks!”
Jeeezuz Otto, you’ve been here almost 2 years and have 1700+ posts and you still can’t grasp the reasons behind the simple (at least for most of us) rule to not link to porn?
:rolleyes:
How’s this, Otto. We expect you to behave like guests in our home. Let that simple statement guide each of your posts and you’ll have no trouble here.
You seem to be looking for a rigorous formula, or set of rules, when the variables are punched in, will give you a rigid and indisputable answer to whether a post is acceptable. I’m tellin’ ya, that is neither possible, nor desirable. Throughout life, everyone must exercise judgement. You, me, the rest of the members, and the other staff folks. Unfortunately, here at the SDMB, the staff’s judgement outweighs yours. We are charged with using our judgement to determine acceptable content for this board. That’s why were here, to control the content of the message board. And that you have to accept; you have no choice.