Eighth grade? 
Not really. Once the ball started rolling, and it didn’t start rolling until some worse stuff happened including almost everyone in the office, my boss’ superior tried to say that he thought I was bipolar. Which I am not, if I was I would have told him. ANyways, a whold bunch of fucked up shit happened until I finally went to the union , who got me out of there the same day. But no one was was even really reprimanded. My boss was " talked to" about sharing confidential information. This included telling others why I was at the doctor, etc. Plus, I found out that about 5 or 6 people before I even started had had problems with this same group of people in the office and had either quit or transferred. I love my union and have come to terms with the rest. I will take them to the highest extent of what I can do if anything starts again.
One thing that was good is that I filed for workman’s comp for the stress. I was told this was extremely hard to prove and get approved but I got the time I had had to take off reimbursed.
Suggestion - r3espond back to Super Fundie and ask her to do you a favor. Please send you absolute, conclusive proof that the mythology of the Bible is true and correct in all aspects. Also ask her who Cain married?
If she can’t provde all of that, it’s time for her to go piss up a rope.
You’re going to hell! (save me a seat)
Jesus Saves! (by clipping coupons and shopping wisely)
Have you found Jesus? (I didn’t even know he was missing)
Meh.
When they tell you that you are going to hell, you could always get some of these cards to give them.
I have to wonder if I started a thread like the hundreds of generalizing anti-Christianity threads on these forums about homosexuals, and specifically because a homosexual asked me out (thus trying to convert me to homosexuality, I could argue) would it be nearly as accepted?
I’ll never understand why it’s okay to stereotype and defame an entire class of people based on what they believe in one specific area of their life but most other similar classes are protected tooth and nail here.
Do you know Jesus? Well…not in the Biblical sense…
ISTM that these threads could be seen as anti-Christianity threads but are in fact anti-bad-Christian threads.
Best of luck with that “trying to convert me” argument. FTR, I wouldn’t consider a polite (non-loaded) invitation to church as a conversion attempt, but I don’t know what an IMHO poll would reveal in the way of other opinions.
Ask yourself if it’s the entire class of people or those who are piss-poor examples. We have a number of, for lack of a better term, “good Christians” who are just as pissed off by bad Christians (if not more so: the bad sort give Christians a bad name) as others of us are.
There have certainly been anti-[religion] comments here and I have found that they are almost invariably combatted. When I find them and it isn’t four pages into the thread I try to make an effort to do so myself. YMMV.
I believe the general consensus here is that homosexuals are born the way they are, and their attraction to you would just be a consequence of that, if they were. I don’t think you could say they were trying to “convert” you… unless they were telling you you’d suffer eternally if you didn’t go out with them. Or something. That’s like saying a black dude or chick was trying to convert you to blackness by asking you out. You are, or you’re not.
On the other hand, I don’t think anyone is born with the innate compulsion to email their friends, family, and acquaintances messages telling them how they are damned to eternal suffering and torture. But, I could be wrong.
picunurse, I just wanted to express my sorrow for your loss.
It never fails to amaze me how cruel fanatics can be. I’m perfectly sure that she rationalized away and justified her actions towards you. I’m a Christian, and it just boggles my mind sometimes to watch some people’s vile, selfish actions towards others in the name of “saving” them.
I’m so sorry.
The general consensus is based on “scientific” evidence that is so small and without causality it’s amazing the same people that will squibble over nothing here on the Straight Dope accept it because it’s “liberally appropriate” to do so.
And anyways, lots of people who are definitely straight can be gay. Personally I’m straight but the idea of having male on male intimacy isn’t something that makes me go “yuck.” Say if I was stranded on a desert island I’d do it more than likely. Although my fantasies are always female oriented.
So I think firstly even if there are people are biologically forced to be homosexuals there are lots of people who can function as homosexuals and not really be “pure” homos (just as many homosexuals can function as heterosexuals, some with little emotional problems.)
And yes on paper these threads start about one bad apple but you scroll down far enough and you’ll always find someone insulting the whole religion, or categorizing wide swathes of believers.
And anyways, since most of us here believe in freedom of choice in our personal lives being understanding of something that isn’t inborn isn’t really that many degrees of difference from being understanding of something that is inborn.
Also @whoever I don’t use this method when I try to convert someone. Of course Catholics don’t tend to witness per se, although I’ve counseled people on the love that Christ has to offer. I’d never do so twice if someone rebuked me the first time. Or call someone anonymously over the phone.
They can be gay or they can engage in homosexual intercourse? World of difference, I promise (look at my social calendar;)).
Oy. Separating the message from the delivery (biologically forced to be gay? Distinctly negative connotation.)…I generally come across as a heterosexual individual, or at least so I’ve been told by and large. The way my attraction to people works is definitely not consistent with heterosexuals in that a straight man is generally not going to be sexually attracted to another man. If the man is cute, I might. There are lots of us on this board who are … what I think you’re describing is bisexuality. That’s me. I don’t see how that’s an argument, in any sense, against gay people.
Oh, the fuck it isn’t. If I decide to live a life of going around shooting people in the head, at random, you’re going to tell me that’s so utterly similar to someone living a life as a blond-haired individual? There can be a gaping crevice between what we decide to do and what is hard-wired, so to speak.
This is meant in a sincere manner (and I say that to distance it from the rest of my post): was that counsel solicited or un-?
Well, We had fun. I got an apology from the hospital, from the nursing staff/days [I was admitted in the middle of the night, and apparently the only information on my file was the 10 am operation David scheduled to make sure that when the dead fetus was removed he got all of the placenta and made sure everything was squeeky clean. Apparently a D&C is performed as both an abortion, and to make sure everything is out in the case of a known miscarriage/natural spontaneous abortion. Hence, due to the nurses *accidently* leaving my folder where it could be read by lay-idiots who apparently did not know jack shit, I got abused for 45 minutes because *obviously* a D&C is an abortion.] The night staff were sweethearts to me so I didnt have a problem with them. The hospital lost a large OB-GYN office’s practice, from what I understand one of their largest chunks of business walked out the door that morning. I also got $25,000. I do understand that the charge nursing sister for that ward got sent off to another hospital, as you cant really fire nuns :rolleyes: In retrospect, I could have caused a lot more stink, and maybe gotten way more money, but I was never really one top try to milk money out of a situation.
On the plus side, David made a requirement from the new hospital he went with that none of his patient records were to be left at the nurses main counter but had to be kept in the charge nurses office after that. I understand that a couple of years later a number of hospitals made regulations barring right to lifers or even random clergy access to people waiting for proceedures…you had to specify that you wanted the hospital chaplain to visit 
After seeing how homosexuals are treated like second-class citizens by a large segment of the population at large, and the amount of discrimination they meet, I find it hard to believe anyone would choose that life unless it truly was the way they were/only way they could lead a fulfilled life. I just don’t see how you can draw a comparison to someone using scare tactics to prosthelytize (sp, lazy) their religion.
A lot of us non-believers have been harassed, talked down to, treated poorly, reminded constantly of our eternal damnation, by holier-than-thou Christians. It kind of leaves a bad taste in your mouth after awhile. There are a lot of what I would call true and very good Christians on this board that don’t do that. I wish more were like them. But it seems the ones that get the most attention and are the most vocal are the really obnoxious ones. So that’s why that kind of knee-jerk reaction exists. I wish the more peaceful Xian types would try to encourage their peers to follow their example, it would help with the negative image of Xians right now as well as cut down on the constant nagging and fire-and-brimstone us non-believers deal with.
Oh, fuck it. I just got lambasted for suggesting that there might be some scientific or intellectual merit to study in paranormal research, by someone who thinks that along with Christian beliefs are “crap.” So I quit. You’re right, and my brain hurts.
Proselytize. FYI:)
HEY!
Welcome back, jinwicked!
Ain’t seen you on the Board since, what, March? 
Nonstarter. Most of the threads bitching about a particular subset of humanity wind up with at least one person claiming that everyone who is associated with the aforementioned subset is crap.
And so long as those people were asking for your counsel, that’s great. As to you not pushing the issue after being rebuked and/or placing anonymous calls, well, you can take some comfort in being one of the good Christians.
And aruvqan: I’m sorry to hear that you went through what must have been pretty horrible. Were I you, I woulda rolled around naked in that 25K and given some of it to Planned Parenthood. Of course, that’s just me.
As a NURSE–I am appalled at the way you were treated-Catholic hospital or no.
I wish you had gotten MORE from them. This is obviously long before HIPPA requirements, but still. Kudos to your doctor and his group!
One note about the local Catholic hospital–it does not allow it’s staff OB/GYNE’s to prescribe birth control pills in the offices on its campus. If you want BC, and go to one of their docs, you have to go to their off site office, located about 15 miles away.
When I heard that, I crossed them off the list of future employers of me…
As to the thread: my mother has had to watch 2 of her 4 daughters die slowly and horribly from complications of juvenile diabetes. My parents live in Memphis, TN. They have a Baptist neighbor (gee, what a surprise)–who when Sandy died, brought a tract over and a message that while there was no help for Sandy (ill since age 8, dead at 40), my mother could still be saved. My mother, while devastated, was polite and civil.
Daughter number 2(ill at 14, dead at 46)died this August–of the same disease, in the same way. Again with the neighbor–but this time, doesn’t my Mom see that Jesus is trying to reach her by this death and she(the neighbor) is only trying to help save my mother’s eternal soul? My mother told her to get out, slammed the door and wrote a letter to the neighbor stating that while she wanted to be a good neighbor–she could no longer have an interaction with this woman.
She is thinking about a restraining order re: this woman.
So, Martin , I don’t find ANY of the abuse doled out to this nasty subset of “Christians” too much, over the top or in any way out of line. I also thnk that most caring Christians on this bb (what little I have seen of them in the short time I have been here) understand the difference and deplore the actions of these sanctimonious, righteous hypocrits, who give all Christians a bad name.
I would be tempted to send back any number of snide emails in return, but the answer with these folks is to ignore them. If they get ANY response, they just keep acomin’.
This thread and others like it are not ranting against what a class of people believe; it’s ranting against how they behave. Do you honestly not see that?
I do not defame Christians. If their beliefs give them comfort and solace, more power to them.
I take exceptions to the “fundies,” that sect of hard-core Christianity who believes they are right and you are going to hell if you don’t believe exactly the way they do, who make it a point to take a tragedy in your life and turn into a sermon.
To use your example, while I have no problem with homosexuals, I have a problem with those who feel it is their purpose in life to “out” other in-the-closet homosexuals.
It’s not the belief, it’s the behavior. Believe what you want. But do not assume you have a right to determine my beliefs are wrong.